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NelsMonsterX
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Reply #26 May 5, 2011 8:53:07 PM
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I'll have to review my Sun Tzu. Lu Bu's name sounds familiar to that text though the vernacular reference to his diminished manhood I do not recall

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NelsMonsterX
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Reply #27 May 9, 2011 9:06:49 PM
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Well, I finally got past the first hundred turns or so and the game is finally starting to feel fun!  Thank goodness!  Global mana rocks and the Ledger screen is a blessing.  The game still doesn't seem to have that level of polish that GalCiv2 2.0 did, but it's unfair to compare two games at such different stages of their life cycle.  That said, though I'm really beginning to finally enjoy the game a bit, I have to say some things are still unappealing to me.

1. I wish it would've been more of a straightforward fantasy world.  The various races are just too similar.  I liked the variety in GalCiv and it is sorely missed here. 

2. Some things just don't make sense: Casting imbue spells, marrying and conceiving children and casting various other spells while a whole continent apart is just illogical.

3. The time it takes to get through the tech tree, even on fast setting, makes for a somewhat one dimensional experience.  I find it far too hard to choose from adventuring, diplomacy, warfare and the like.  It seems like some things could be learned concurrently.

 

I'm glad the game has improved this much though and feel like I'm nearly won over.  I can't wait to see what will Fallen Enchantress will be like!

 

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NelsMonsterX
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Reply #28 May 9, 2011 10:58:53 PM
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Quoting NelsMonsterX,
reply 27

1. I wish it would've been more of a straightforward fantasy world.  The various races are just too similar.  I liked the variety in GalCiv and it is sorely missed here. 

Most of us do. Master of Magic & Age of Wonders were great with their different races and we all hope the factions in Elemental will eventually be distinct from one another.

I personally believe that the 2nd expansion/standalone will make the factions distinct just like Twilight of the Arnor did.

 

Quoting NelsMonsterX,
reply 27

2. Some things just don't make sense: Casting imbue spells, marrying and conceiving children and casting various other spells while a whole continent apart is just illogical.

Brad requested that to help out the A.I.

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Reply #29 May 10, 2011 12:14:12 AM
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There's a mod being worked on now to differentiate the factions more now to make them more unique. Still there are area's that are lacking in WOM that can be worked on further. Just hope for the next patch update 1.3 because that's where a lot more new content will be coming. 

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Reply #30 May 10, 2011 11:50:20 AM
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Quoting Phylast57,
reply 26
I'll have to review my Sun Tzu. Lu Bu's name sounds familiar to that text though the vernacular reference to his diminished manhood I do not recall

 

Lu Bu played a major role during the end of the Later Han dynasty, he was known as the greatest warrior of his age, but also treacherous.

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Reply #31 May 11, 2011 12:18:59 PM
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Quoting Lord Xia,
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It's very anti-thematic having your Sov being a giant pussy.

*shrug*  It could be worse.

Your sovereign could be sparkling.

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Reply #32 May 11, 2011 12:27:33 PM
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Quoting EternalRequiem,
reply 29
There's a mod being worked on now to differentiate the factions more now to make them more unique. Still there are area's that are lacking in WOM that can be worked on further. Just hope for the next patch update 1.3 because that's where a lot more new content will be coming. 

 

I would hope that we wouldn't need a mod to resolve this aspect of the game.

Here's to wishing for that in 1.3 and beyond.

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Reply #33 May 11, 2011 12:37:13 PM
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Quoting Lord Xia,
reply 30
Quoting Phylast57, reply 26I'll have to review my Sun Tzu. Lu Bu's name sounds familiar to that text though the vernacular reference to his diminished manhood I do not recall

 

Lu Bu played a major role during the end of the Later Han dynasty, he was known as the greatest warrior of his age, but also treacherous.

 

and dumb as a post on every game I've played

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Reply #34 May 11, 2011 12:41:07 PM
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Well, the game is designed to be largely generic so the AI can play it.
Now adding interesting and diverse races would pretty much defeat the purpose.

Every player in the game builds the same units with the same equipment items and casts the same spells.
(to be fair - while the units have identical stats, they do have 2 different sets of skin textures)

Magic offers a little variance but it seems to be more a gimmick than an attempt to differentiate the "races". That's not even a token nod to MoM's race diversity.

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Reply #35 May 12, 2011 2:44:10 AM
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Quoting Grizzyloins,
reply 33

Quoting Lord Xia, reply 30Quoting Phylast57, reply 26I'll have to review my Sun Tzu. Lu Bu's name sounds familiar to that text though the vernacular reference to his diminished manhood I do not recall

 

Lu Bu played a major role during the end of the Later Han dynasty, he was known as the greatest warrior of his age, but also treacherous.

 

and dumb as a post on every game I've played

 

but interestingly depicted as a genius in "the ravages of time", a comic. (much like just about every "idiot" general around the era...)

basis for that interpretation is that you can't be all that dumb when marshalling hundreds of thousands / millions of men, and that smart people acts dumb to catch people out.

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Reply #36 May 12, 2011 10:24:03 AM
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He didn't seem like an idiot in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms novel.

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Reply #37 May 15, 2011 9:12:43 PM
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Hey, Lord Chia (smile)   Some pussys can kick your fanny off the edge of the world!  Don't assume 'badass' and 'pussy' are antitethical (opposites).  It just aint necessially so.   

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Reply #38 June 17, 2011 9:19:35 PM
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Quoting AlLanMandragoran,
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Dynasty Warriors handled it well. Lu Bu knifes through like 10,000 peasants and you can't help but think: "Lu Bu is NOT a pussy."

 

Until he runs into some nameless officer and he 1-combos you into defeat because his fan has elements on it and shave your life down to nothing in 6 hits...

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Reply #39 June 17, 2011 9:21:14 PM
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Quoting Grizzyloins,
reply 33

Quoting Lord Xia, reply 30Quoting Phylast57, reply 26I'll have to review my Sun Tzu. Lu Bu's name sounds familiar to that text though the vernacular reference to his diminished manhood I do not recall

 

Lu Bu played a major role during the end of the Later Han dynasty, he was known as the greatest warrior of his age, but also treacherous.

 

and dumb as a post on every game I've played

 

Heh, I remember in the first Destiny of an Emperor, his intellect stat drops constantly as the game goes on, I think it ends up at like 26 (out of 255) the last time you can encounter him in the game.

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Reply #40 June 18, 2011 12:53:35 AM
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Heh, I loved Destiney of an Emporer, first RoTK themed game I ever played. 

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