From what I can tell, it seems that both pigeon and NTJedi want the game functionality to have internal consistency that is presented via words and images that can parse easily for 'the average' player while still providing some sense of a deeply imagined world. Most of the ping-pong (here and in other threads) on realism seems to me to boil down to matters of taste, not engineering, science, or even metaphysics.
Thats how I often feel about it. I wouldn't say 'the average' player, just because I have a very low opinion of what 'average player' might mean in this day and age (or really ever... the founding fathers of the US were horrified at actually letting the ignorant masses in direct control of the country, which is why they created a republic) I feel that both of them are able to construct functional communication that is more than I can say about some. (it could also be that the 'average' people I seem to meet of late, rather than the 'above average' people, are a stagnent collection of collage students that just sit around and do nothing, because if they were particularly compitant they might be employeed somewhere. *I'm in a sour mood, take my words as only that to those who might be offended*)
This is why I often don't get too involved, which I sometimes feel I should since they've gone through enough time to actually write up their walls-o-text. And because I'm a self-proclaimed forum troll and should be banging my stick on every wall I find (or anything else I guess) until somebody other than Kitkun throws me a Red Herring. (Kitkun has a tendancy to smack me, and I think everybody else, with herrings. For those who didn't get the joke)
