-WhiteElk

From the article... "So, to recap: EULAs are binding, they can control just about everything you might dream up, and only Congress can change the situation." So what about EULA's that can't be read until after opening the software package? Are the courts prepared to over turn store policies prohibiting refund for anything short of product fail? "We hold today that a software user is a licensee rather than an owner of a copy where

[quote quoting="post"]Let's suppose the game was bugless and worked (HAHAH) ...Hey I love this game so forgive the irony please - and start talking about its strategic faults: [/quote] I see no irony. I do see what appears to be malicious sarcasm. That's how I read your title and opening sentence anyhow. If you just wanted to talk about exploits, why the disrespect?

Your being an ass Zero. Your attacking the forum members with generalizations. And your attacking Stardock with assumptions. I've seen no constructive purpose with your recent postings. Be free to offer advice and feedback on the game. But please stop the negativity.

[quote who="Zero_the_Hero" reply="275" id="2766104"] In this forum, you either kiss stardock's ass or you are told to "shut up and go away" by half dozens of truculent thread-guard fan boys. If you read some random posts about the game, you will be capable to name each one of them.[/quote] Your statement is patently false. I take exception to it. People who love the game offer feedback. People who are disappointed offer advice. People who are outrigh

[quote who="TheBirthdayParty" reply="26" id="2764627"] Shrug, so shifting blame around? Doesn't help the situation or future purchases or recommendations of games. [/quote] Wheres the blame shifting? I think it occured by flaming Stardock for actions outside their sphere of influence. Stardock doesn't ship the games. They have no control over shipping operations. And they are limited in response by the quality of the intel they are gi

[quote who="TheBirthdayParty" reply="17" id="2764453"] Well blame depends. Who gets most of the money from my pre-order? [/quote] I think people have a reason to be upset. I just wanted to highlight the fact that shipping errors are not of Stardocks doing. And the info they get on whats been shipped is provided to them by the fulfillment vendor. They don't have direct control over any of this. Therefore there

[quote who="Burress" reply="11" id="2764418"]I think there is a lot going on here with this phenomenon. A lot of different needs are being met by a lot of people. We are learning what bothers us and what doesn't, what hurts others feelings, what this kind of hurt feels like, how to defend others, how to rise above and sink with bitterness. Nerdraging is behovely, and everybody involved is getting something useful out of it. [/quote]Agreed. I find this all intriguing.

That really sucks. But you should know that Stardock, like many ( most? ) companies use a Fulfillment vendor to manufacture, assemble, and ship their product to the end user. This is a third party company with no relation to Stardock services. Stardock is a customer. They pay the fulfillment center to burn the CDs, package the games, send the product to the

[quote who="Mtn_Man" reply="119" id="2763399"] I still have a hunch that if Elemental had Sid Meier's name on the box and all other things were equal, it would have been given a far more charitable reception. You would have seen a lot of reviews using phrases like "Despite these problems..." [/quote]I've similar thoughts. And wonder at the ferocity for which Elemental was hammered. Civ3 was released without the advertised MP and Edito

Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory ( G.I.F.T. ) A NY Times article about the possible science behind it.

Edited for the sake of peace and restored sanity.

[quote who="lswallie" reply="143" id="2760147"]its amazing how many of you are gushing over the candor of the post - a post that still contains elements of being out of touch with the state of the game and what it needs and the reason for the way it is... atleast they are determined to speak frankly and support the game in the future whether or not the right decisions are made [/quote]As relates to software support... It's easy to be " gushing over the can

[quote who="wayninja" reply="67" id="2760083"] Quoting WhiteElk, reply 65 "Why I chose Elemental over Civ 5" I initially choose Elemental over Civ5 because I choose Impulse over steam (thats a whole other topic discussed in

[quote who="fatindian" reply="66" id="2760071"] Quoting WhiteElk, reply 65 "Why I chose Elemental over Civ 5" I initially choose Elemental over Civ5 because I choose

"Why I chose Elemental over Civ 5" I initially choose Elemental over Civ5 because I choose Impulse over steam ( thats a whole other topic discussed in length elsewhere, so I won't get into here ). 2k's handling of Civ reinforces my decision to abandon my most favored game. Stardock as a publisher is everything that 2k is not. From this gamers pov..

Drama Cleansing Thread It seems that the meaning behind this thread title is lost on many. I'm

[quote who="Frogboy" reply="224" id="2755641"]On the issue of Elemental, I can only speak for myself when I say that the biggest "change" with regards to it has been being away from it long enough to stop looking at it as "my baby" and instead get enough objectivity to evaluate it as a stand-alone gaming product. I.e. If you're emotionally attached to a product, you're too close and clearly, obviously, I was too close to it.[/quote]I've read you saying this a few ti

[quote who="bman654" reply="28" id="2743188"]Hey I want to know how the sewage project went? Is it all good now? [/quote]It's coming well enough along thanks for asking :~) It should be all downhill from here and I've passed the halfway point to get the system working again. Though much work remains. Rain interferes since I cannot allow the leach trenches exposure to it. The majority of the heavy labor is past ( relative to the project in full&nbs

[quote who="Advalary" reply="30" id="2743824"]Considering that a few years ago Stardock paraded around their "Gamers Bill of Rights" as though they were the champions of gamers, I think we have a right to be upset that Stardock release such an unfinished game. I'll quote the "right" in question. "Gamers shall have the right to demand that games be released in a finished state." The fact that Stardock has now taken down said "document" from their site says alot abou

There is MP, but this not a cloud game or an MMO ( if thats what your looking for )... Was just playing.... The Battle for Wesnoth !!!!!!!! Top notch game. I'da been happy paying $60+ for it. Buts it's free. Always has been. Its a gem of an open source

[quote who="tillachan2k9" reply="14" id="2738607"]If you're going with the whole wall building analogy, most contractors don't get paid until the wall is finished [/quote]Not so true. Often you pay a large chunk of the job cost to cover materials at the very least. When I can, I do it myself because Iam unhappy with other peoples results, even when a job stretches outside my experience. This project was a question of money so I took professional design

@ some... First off, I'm one who feels strongly that a product purchased must do the job immediately. However, the software environment in general, seems to currently be based on a post release fix-it somewhat paradigm. But by default I don't trust in a companies willingness to improve product post sale. Yet, from researching Stardocks history, I grant them a bit of a window based on historic performance. They <span style="text-decoration: underli

Some say that Elementals start was a little rocky. Stuff happens. It is an ambitious project with many complicated parts. On the whole, Elementals launch is an ever growing success. The parts that need refinement are being addressed in an especially timely manner. Hats off to the Elemental crew for their dedication to the game and its fans. They keep us updated. They dialogue with us about the game. They work extended hours to provide fixes AS

Very Cool [e digicons]:drool:[/e] Woulda been nice to see an actual unboxing. You know, show the wonder of opening the box and discovering the goodies as they are uncovered. I think I'm gonna miss that joy. Took an unexpected big money hit with a failed septic system. Over 1k and thats with me doing all the work to build the new drain field. My Elemental and music budg

Some of us will be off a bit sooner. Kudos to Stardock for the early release for Beta Testers!