"Oh sure, there ain't nothing confusing about the Bible. It's all clear and concise, not to mention factual and spot on." There isn't and it is, as long as one relies on the holy spirit to explain it. Most however depend on the mind, which is ignorant of things of the spirit.
Is it a crowded road? I've found it to be quite the contrary. I've found the road where one is carried to be extremely crowded however. Not only with those that think that their soul has been saved with little to no effort on their parts because Jesus died for them and their sins, but also those who believe that eventually they will reincarnate into perfection also with little to no effort on their part. Yes, you'd be amazed at just how crowded your road is.<
There is nothing confursing about it KFC, unless one wishes it to be. Genesis 6.3 "And God said: My spirit shall not remain in man forever, because he is flesh; and his days shall be a hundred and twenty years". Yes God did. Not only did God say his days shall be a hundred and twenty years, he also stated that his spirit is in man, as is evidenced by God saying that it can not remain in man forever. No man of flesh has ever lived longer than those one
"We can't. That's the whole problem and the whole reason Christ came. We have a disease called sin and we couldn't cure ourselves of it. That was the whole point of Christ's coming in the flesh perfect and without sin. " We are capable, we just don't believe that we are capable. It's much easier to put the burden of saving our souls on another rather than do the work ourselves. Jesus proved that it was possible for mankind to do this. If one wi
However Leauki, I would have to say that it is "they keep our minds busy, and put us in the right state of "spirit".
"Any rabbi can explain why we follow rituals. They don't do anything, they are just to keep us busy and put us in the right state of mind." BINGO! This is the absolute truth of the matter.
I must disagree with you on that KFC. It is my experience that we only come to God "broken and messed up" because we've chosen that for ourselves though our excercise of free will, not because God has created us in that manner. Nothing that God created including man was imperfect to begin with. It is our duty to make ourselves perfect again in God's sight, since it was ourselves that chose to become imperfect by following our own self interests instead of God's will to begin
"If I am correct earlier in this discussion you encouraged that we should to be solely focused on Christ's words. What then do Chrst's own words mean when He said, "I and the Father are one"?" Anyone can be one with God Lulapilgrim. It only requires the giving over of self. When this happens one does become one with God since one's own free will becomes one with the will of God. Self no longer exists other than in the physical form. The fact tha
"I have given you the benefit of the doubt all this time that you were truly a seeker, maybe just misguided at best or hopelessly ingrained at worse by the RCC but now after this exchange I am convinced I am not dealing with a true genuine seeker but one that is honestly working for Satan for her own gain. Sorry Lula. I don't say these words easily. " !!!??? This is indeed a pity. Thank you for your answers Leauki. I'm very
I do understand your feelings based on the past experiences of your people. It is my experience that people will do what they wish regardless of whether they have been told the truth or not. Your point however is well taken. Tell me if you would, why are you here if you don't care what christians believe, considering the topic subject and the fact that it was started by KFC whom you obviously know is christian. Is it out of curiosity not unlike myself, or is there an
I think I understand your feelings on the matter Leauki. It's your quirk and the quirk of others as well no doubt. I find such quirks in myself a waste of time and a distraction as well. When I am concentrating on my quirks and my annoyance of others because of them I'm not concentrating on what they are saying and instead I am focusing on the irritation. I've found it's better to ignore the irritation and far more condusive to conversation. But t
Lovely quote peoples party, thank you for the gift of it. However it still doesn't show why God had to take a human form. An angel is not a human form. Nor does it explain why God had to live and die in remittance of mankinds sin. The sin is ours and only we are responsible for paying the penalty for it. I am of the feeling that Jesus proved to God that mankind was capable of paying the penalty not only that but capable of putting&
It's very considerate of you, and I truly mean that. It would be more considerate however if you didn't insist that everyone do as you do. Which does remind me to apologize to you for the manner in which I post that seems to bother you. For your sake I will try to control my natural way of speaking when a post is directed to you. "It changes the dynamics. It is clear that she is not here to discuss and learn but to remind us that we all follow the wr
It seems that few are interested in this topic, but I am. "And when he was alone but they that were about him with the twelve ask of him the parable. And He said to them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the Kingdom of God but unto them that are without all these things are done in parables. That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand, lest at any time they sho
Even when we state "belief" we are most generally insistant that it is fact. If we didn't this lively and interesting discussion would not take place in the first place. But does it really matter that Lulapilgrim states that it is fact? Why does it matter if she says it's fact or not, other than the obvious reason of "she doesn't agree with me, and I can't force her to see it my way"? Why can't one simply ignore that she uses the word "fact".................it's just a
An interesting post Peoples Party but not an answer to the question that I asked. The second question is pretty straightforward and I don't understand why you seem to be confused about it. The question is where is mans own sacrifice for his own sin? God did not commit original sin, man did..............why should God pay for it? God demands of us payment for every sin we commit........except this one called original sin which was simply putting self before God.&nb
Perhaps we are saying the same thing KFC, we shall see. Tell me, what do you believe the "holy ghost" is? What is your definition? Why do you think that God would die for mankind? Where is the sacrifice by men in God dying for them? Why would God take a human form? To answer your question..............I thought I did. There is not a book. So now answer my question, why did you think ther was? No
A very interesting read with a great deal of truth said, however could you not use the word "unworthy"? No one is unworthy, some are just not ready.
You are correct in what you are telling Lulapilgrim, KFC, but the blood of another doesn't wash them away either. The only thing that washes away sins is forgiveness and penitence. Forgiveness from those we offend and cause harm to befall as well as from God, and penitence to make correct that which we have caused to go wrong.
What makes you think that I say what I say because I've read it somewhere? You may be afraid but I am not. Peter had a great deal of self importance, before and after Jesus's death. Dying for one's faith doesn't mean that one no longer posess self importance. No one walks the path without falling off every now and again, not even the apostles. Am I saying that the apostles did this thing deliberately? No I didn't, for in truth they thought th
Here I must disagree Lulapilgrim. Jesus is not God. There is nothing supernatural about anything, including the "miracles" of Jesus. It is simply natural law in operation, and natural law is God. The hebrews knew this, nowhere in the OT do they call anything "supernatural", they rightly call it what it is.....................the works of God. Nor do they attribute any "miracles" performed through any man by God to that man declaring him a God. The
"A mere ceremony"? Who said that? I only read and said that it was a ritual and like all rituals of all faiths in all nations, it was designed to totally focus one's attention on the task at hand, because without total attention the ritual is meaningless. However, the fact is Lulapilgrim, the RCC baptises infants, who have no focus or attention due to their age. Baptism has in effect for the most part, become nothing more than a ceremony, designed more to sat
"But you're focusing on their immaturity in the faith and the beginning of their ministries. Look at how they ended their lives and their ministries. Remember it's not how you start a race that's important; it's all in the finish. Have you ever heard of an 85 meter race? " It is for that very lack of faith and immaturity that their ideas are to be doubted. They had all the information Jesus made sure of that, and they were witnesses. What more proof
Then why do you bother? There must be something that you are looking for even if it's just to belittle everyone else here. I think that it's more than that, but I could be wrong.
Yes, I know that it's a lousy pat answer, sorry. However you can do this thing, there's nothing stopping you but you.
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