Supernatural? Everything there is is of God, so nothing is 'supernatural". Even so if I told you what I've seen what good would that do you? Would you believe me? Not likely, so why should I bother? It would be a waste for us both. It's up to you to try see what you consider "supernatural", it's the only way that you will ever believe it.
I do not long for death, ending one's participation in this world is not a longing for death, but for life. I do not believe in a heaven after death, quite the contrary I am more of the mind in the jewish vein when it comes to that. One will not find the next world after death. Finding the next world is a concious act one that is performed during one's lifetime. Once one has died the chance for that is over. How can one overcome the desire and attraction of the w
Thank you Leauki for the information, it makes perfect sense for both circumcision and Bar Mitzwah. If what you say Lulapilgrim about baptism is correct then tell me why the man Jesus, whom you unequivicably state was God and was born without original sin, was baptised by John. What point could there have been in it? There was no sin to wash away according to your belief. Do you think that Jesus allowed this to be done simply for the sake of doing it, or to prove that
Baptism removes original sin? How so? Original sin is self interests (importance), and most children are baptised shortly after birth. They haven't a clue as to what is going on or even the importance of the ritual of baptism. Many of these children go on to sin all over the place due to the fact that they have self interests (importance). I am of the mind that the hebrew nation has the right idea when it comes to rituals such as circumcision, it is perform
Nice to see that you've returned and all has gone well with you, Lulapilgrim. You say the sin of pride, yet pride is nothing more than a by product of self importance, along with greed, envy, malice, etc. Self importance is the original sin, and it can not be simply washed away in baptism, it's removal requires deliberate and concious effort on the part of each individual. We are all born with a modicum of it, and then it's cultivated by parents and society. It becom
Not the world, just our participation in it. There is another world, one without all the pain, sorrow, grief and death, but we can't exist in it as long as we cling to this one.
"In other words, stop thinking for yourself." Yes, exactly. Don't misunderstand that, it's not that we should let some other person think for us. It means that we should allow the holy spirit do it. When we do the thinking it tends to be all about ourselves, when the holy spirit does it it is what's right and just, and of benefit to all concerned. Of or by it makes no difference. What I wrote was grammatically correct since I was speaking
You take the words "ignorant nobody" as meaning something derogatory. It does not. There is great advantage to being an ignorant nobody. Peter was ignorant and as a fisherman he was a nobody. You said that he was a fisherman and illiterate, it was in your defense of Paul who was educated by the best of his time. You compared the two and Paul it seems, won in your mind, because he was educated by the most learned men of his time. You seem
"again, as you take scripture out of context you also twist my words. I never said that." Oh no? "Peter was a fisherman with little to no book learning. " Guess you did. I do not take scriputre out of context, I simply don't rewrite it, nor do I take it in the manner that is the most convenient and the most undemanding for me as you seem to do. Not one apostle is of any importance at all other than the fact that they were present with J
Why not? Because Jesus didn't. Jesus did not choose Paul, and Paul was living while Jesus was living. Oh, by the way........how did Peter write that Paul's writings were to be put up if Peter was as you were so quick and eager to point out earlier, an ignorant illiterate nobody? Obviously he couldn't write a thing if he couldn't write at all. And before you give me this scribe thing...........let me inform you of something, if you can't read you don't kno
My apologies. You weren't speaking to me but about me. I should've known.
[quote]Jesus met him where he was. His money was his god and Jesus knew that. The poor old widow gave all she had and is held up as an example of one who is the complete opposite of the rich young ruler. She understood that everything is God's even the little she had. [/quote Many of us don't understand the real meaning behind both stories. It was not that the young man's wealth was his god, for in truth he kept all the laws, which would have included worship at temple whic
Yes leave your children, or what is not clear about the fact that Jesus stated there "will be no husband and wife"? Or Jesus's statement about who is and is not his brother or mother? These rules apply to children as well, they are not an acception. Have you no faith that god will care for them?
Half a million is still half a million, world perspective or no.
Not just the "rich" man, who by the way was also a righteous man (which didn't help him at all with Jesus, for all his righteousness he still wasn't acceptable), but also of the "widows mite". What makes you think that these are instructions for just the few? And that you or anyone else is above taking them and that these instruction are not for all but the few? The truth is.............they are for all who wish to follow him. This is what makes you and those like
"He said the harvest is plentiful but the laborors are few. We are to be busy sowing and reaping as we are given the opportunity to do so." How many are you KFC, couple of hundred thousand and growing, and lets not forget the few hundred thousand Jehovahs Witnesses, or the thousands of Mormans and various other christian sects out there spreading the gospel as well. The laborers are few? I'd say there's a great deal of you out there. I'm thinki
Thanks for your quick reply to all my questions Lulapilgrim. Good luck with your move, and I do hope that you return soon. I have a million and one questions and am eager to hear your response to them.
"In the same chapter of the Book of the Apocalypse 21:8, it says, "but as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars there lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur..."" This Lulapilgrim I find most interesting. You tell me that I should stop trying to discredit Paul, I'm not trying to discredit him so much as I'm trying to get to the truth and heart of the matter. KFC says that P
Yes Elijah was on the mountain with Jesus, however John the Baptist had already been dispatched by Herod. So I think that you are wrong in your explanation of Elijah and John the Baptist. Or is this simply one of those "always accepted for hundreds of years" explanations of yours? For it does read that ""But I say to you that Elijah has come already, and they did not know him, but did to him whatever they wished." If indeed Elijah had already retur
Why Lulapilgrim does it follow that because God sired a son, a mortal man, that that man is now God incarnate? No child begotten by a mortal man is their father incarnate. Please expain this reasoning if you would. I do agree that Jesus and God were one, but not one in the same. It's been my experience that when one gives over their free will to God, that ones will blends with Gods, and in that they can be called one since their purpose is now the same purp
Only the word of Paul says that he had the same teacher, not so with Peter. Who Peter's teacher was is well corroborated by others. No you didn't say that Paul was better, you implied it in your tirade about Paul having been educated by the best men available, and Peter simply being an uneducated fishterman. Trust me, it wasn't such a leap to figure it out. And if it wasn't your point just what was your point? It wasn't obvious from your post. I just wish to be
In answer to your post about John the Baptist. I don't find it at all peculiar that John did not admit to being Elijah, why would he admit to something that he couldn't recall? Jesus said that he was Elijah as evidenced in Matthew chapter 17 9-13: "And as they were coming down from the mountain, Jesus cautioned them, saying, "Tell the vision to no one, till the Son of Man has risen from the dead." And the disciples asked him, saying, "Why then do the Scribes say that
"of course you automatically think this because like I said before, you have an ax to grind. Could it also be that Paul wanted to be alone with God after being taught by the best teachers around? Could it be that Paul wanted NOT to be influenced by man but be with God alone? Peter was just a man. He wasn't God. Peter was a fisherman with little to no book learning. Paul was educated to his fingertips by the best men teachers in the province. Most like
I am not either Infidel. I do not consider a place without all these things to be a paradise nor to be happily ever after, just different. Paradise as far as I am concerned would be to be one with the "I AM". The next life is not that, and the next life will end not in the death, but an ending never the less.
Oh my, where did you ever get all this KFC? Jesus stepped out of time. When did Jesus ever say that or imply such? I think that it is you who's reading what they wish to see. Who is Jesus? He is the fulfillment of a promise. He is the son of man (his words not mine), he was a man. He was not a deity stepped out of time. A deity who defeated the death means little to an ordinary man. An ordinary man would never believe that he had such po
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