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So the game is completely weak to blunt damage? Gonna get out my Mace collection. 

Ships, sea monsters and multiplayer!

1. multiplayer

2a. modding

2b. sea travel

Please

I'd be voting for multiplayer personally, if I had to choose between the two. With respect to modders, I think multiplayer would mean more replay value for a greater number of people. And we can already do a wealth of things with what we have today.

A well-done multiplayer would really reinforce that this is currently the best 4x tbs fantasy game on the market. With simultaneous turns you'd blow warlock:mota out of the water.

That is, assuming multiplayer means "simultaneous turns", "with tactical battles" and "with quests". Otherwise I'd be going for modding. Multiplayer should mean real multiplayer, not watered down. Bonus if our mods work in MP of course!

Plus, multiplayer sells copies and more copies = more money = more resources for FE or the follow-up game. Then you can give us modders script access in the next game and keep multiplayer intact.

PS. See Endless Space for how multiplayer in a tbs game is done flawlessly. We can even re-join games in progress there (although it's a nightmare because AI messes up everything while you're gone).

Am I the only 1 not caring for sea travel .
I really feel the game has some neat choices without putting on a wet card-board extra piece of strategy that usually have a trillion flaws from the start (Water).
Most water combat or tactics I see is really rubbish
*stomps in the ground hopping around in little angry circles to make you know you must make me feel that I am right*

Sincerely
~ Kongdej

I'm not too excited about the way sea travel is typically done.

I really don't like cities building harbors and then building boats and then having to load troops onto boats.

I also don't like units turning into boats to cross the water.  There has to be a better way.

Interesting idea, sounds terrible to try and implement on random maps .

Also sounds weird to implement in the broken world lore of FE.

Sincerely
~ Kongdej

A. Flying shows us that the only thing necessary for water-walking to be interesting is stuff to do on the water.

B. Spells / Units / Creatures / Vehicles / Mounts / Items with water-walk.

C. The raise (and consequently lower) land spells could have their mana costs reduced to 5 or 10 (more terraforming = more fun anyways, especially with the beautiful updates on the cloth map).

D. Only armies with a water-walking unit that has the appropriate "vehicle size" trait for the amount of troops in said army could access waterways.  The model for this unit would be used to represent the containing army, and it's movement points could supersede those of the other troops.

E. Certain water-walking units or vehicles would not be able to walk on land.

F. Beach tiles could act as gateways through the cliff wall that separates land and water.

F.1. Beach tiles could be limited to only functionally granting passage once brought under a player's ZOC, researched, and developed (higher level structures imparting larger modes of transit, and allowing for bigger armies).

F.2. Upon completed construction, a water-walking unit (or vehicle) could be produced, similar to the elementals created by shard shrines for Binders.

F.3. Beach tiles could be connected via a similar system as roads.  *credit to Heavenfall for this idea

G. The lower land spell could be adjusted accordingly to change cliffs into beaches (which would still need to be brought under a player's ZOC, researched, and developed to be of any use).

H. Rivers could additionally be classified as water, allowing for interaction with directly adjacent objects via aquatic routes (the limitation of using the afore-mentioned beach tiles in order to actually move on or off land still standing).

I. Water could be further categorized into different types of tiles with varying effects, such as shallow, deep, calm, and stormy (perhaps even limiting certain size armies/vehicles to certain areas/depths, or influencing the route generation for "sea roads").

J. Units on water could require additional upkeep.

K. Any combination of the above at all.

(I'll keep thinking on my way to sleep.)

I sold the game to a few of my friends with the promise that multiplayer would be added. Soooooo.... I hope that multiplayer becomes the next addition.

I just got Endless Space and that is an awsome game. It has replaced GalCIV2 for me as my main TBS space game. I just wish I could ad my custom races as opponets like I could with GalCiv2. Galciv2 still has the best ship customizer.

Kinda funny you hijack the thread and make it about sea travel. The game I played that ran so well met an unfortunate bugged end. Playing a conquest/diplomatic ending. Two factions were not found. I made my own land bridges by raising land to explore what I could til i got bored 20-30 turns later.

I did find a continent that was not connected via land bridge like most. There was no AI on it though. Also while trying to get to unconnected continent I encountered an issue. With an AI having the coast in their territory you can not connect by raising land. So how do you get there besides making a huge looping landbridge around their territory?

Speaking of which, if the owned area doe snot allow terraforming by other players then what stops a player from using Destroy Land (does that spell still exist?) to create such an exploited barrier.

I'm sorry, its my pidgeon brain and its 5 second memory's fault

Sincerely
~ Kongdej