midn8t

Join Date 03/2006

Densitys Cool but lacking

so iv been playing this beta for past couple days and the densty seems kinda kol but at same time it dose not add anything to the game it feels kinda gimiky to me.

I think the there should be some work on the time line every turn is a what one year two years five years a kid is born and then in 3 4 or 5 turns is adult and befor you know it every one is 100s of years old and you nock out these kids so fast its not even funny ?

as soon as one dies couple turns go by and you have a replacement, so its like these kids get poped out are not even important to my game.

as for dipolamcy making it some what important well maybe but not really not in a conquest game.

I feel as if something is lacking.

to make these people important to me there just not i couldnt care less about them.

i think maybe every turn should be a month and maybe they should come of age in 18 years something to make them worth something important if it takes along time to get them to adualt hood and to make them use able then they become important.

question what is point of them saying frist to the thorn your main guy never dies and can not die correct hes immortal ?

and if you lose him you lose game right ?

if that is the case i dont see point of taking him into combat ever period, and if he never dies then none of the kids can ever claim the thorn. ?

only thing kids do is act like leaders for your armys, int hat role and that role only are they of any importance to me.

but there still generic to me.

dose any one out othere feel or get feeling of being attached to any of there kids where they care if they lose them or not beucae if you do there replacement well just get poped out right after there death pretty much. ?

also curies the wife it seems kinda wired to just bame there you are married, why not have option to get married after you make a town and to be able to marry someone you pick from your town or maybe abilty to divroce and marry anthere factions kid ?

can the wife die or is she also imortal my wife lived for like till age of 350 ? then i just kinda stopped playing.

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maybe make it so if you take a wife for example she cant have kids once she turns 40, so you half to divroce her and get a new wife if you married a anthere factions duaghter for allaince if you divroced her then allaince be shattered.

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yah I agree with this, Desntiy is kinda neat but i think its strange how soon as a kid dies you get a new one and how you have a limited number of kids you can get I think, there should be something coded into this that makes it more relastic to real life, and aging and time scale seems bit wired to me also.

for how many years goses by per turn so you telling me i takes like 32 years to build two huts based off of how fast my guy ages and how fast kids grow up.

whole thing just seems off like it was just throwen in with out alot of thought behind it.

actully i made a user name just so i could comment on this i was bit sadden by, how desinty was turned out i was hopping some more in line with how the game guild works, where you can pick out your own wife and try to have kids when you want to have them and have them grow up and age maybe send them to school where you get exprince points that you can spend or have them tag along with adventures something to make family members mean more then just random chars who are there.

I also do not see point of having them say frist in line or secound in line for the thrown seems kinda point less senes your guy dosnt die ?

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Remember, this is beta. The Dynasty system is hardly implemented right now and building times are mostly placeholders. Things like this will polished as the beta goes on.

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well then it dose not hurt to give them ideas or to comment on what we like or do not like correct that is point of this forum after all.

plus beta one is comming to a close they aounced it in the journal.. on there web page, this type of stuff will only get fixed probly in beta 1 not in the mutilplayer part of the beta or part of beta that gets gfxs engine implmented.

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Quoting meganmorgan,

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No, not at all. The beta schedule is when things will be implemented, but gameplay will be tweaked throughout the beta.

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i agree with morgan and mid about family thing needed alot of work, on it and something to make the family meaning full where they do not feel like objects that can just be throwen away.

anyways but i also agree with morgan on what she said about the forum the whole point of the forum is so we can share ideas and that the devlopers read them and we all learn from what we like and dislike that being the case it dose not hurt to state our thoughts on what we think instead of just waiting with our fingers across for things we like that may never happen or may happen.

sure things may get fixed or changed latter on or in latter stages of beta but how will devlopers know what we like or dont like if none of us state what bugs us or what we would like to see done, and this is some what of a hijacking of this whole subject the subject matter is not if beta will get changed or if it will get changed this subject is on what we like the famiyl and desntiy thing to become.

any one elese have any ideas of ways to make the family members mean more or to make it more relastic ?

Myles if you like to add something worth while feel free to say what your thoughts or what you think could or what you like to see added or changed to the famiyl struct or deinsty thing to make it imporved that would be really worth while thing to add to your post.

I do think that turn turn = age you time is way off something needs to be done to make that more relastic.

I do like idea about girls having till tehre 40s or so to have kids and i like idea of divorceing or killing or running off your spouse if they can not provide you kids and i like idea of it effect dimplaisy and what othere factions think of you if you amrried one of there kids or people.

i also like idea of being able to chose whoyou married and having there stats effect trats effect your kids.

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My point is it is hard to make judgement on something that isn't even 50% complete. Beta 1Z will be out this week and then stuff will probably more complete, and likely to be completely different then what we had before. I think it's jumping the gun to start really analyzing the dynasty system when it's barely there at all.

For example, Stardock said the dynasty system in build 1G(what we have now) is there basically so that the code is available. In the future you will be able to choose a wife over being assigned, and things such as having a kid at 71 will be corrected. Kids/Heros will be able to be imbued with essence and all these other things which make the system interesting.

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yah and it may or may not ever be what you like it to be if delvopers dont know what we be intrested in having, best time to thro around ideas is befor it is even really implmented more like to get best possaiblt relsults and be able to incoprt it best possaible way when it is implented after every one throughs around what they think or feel it should be agin i still think this is a hijack attemp at stealing this forum out of realm it was meant to be.

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its nice to see some people agree with me, do we have any othere ideas or things we like to see implmented into this?

I see there is couple things that may be planned already by stardock that was brought up by myles for example being able to choose a wife, and being able to have kids latter in life may be fixed and imbueding heroes with essences.

is there anything elese we know will or wont be added to this or dose any one have any thing elese they like to see implemented or added to it?

I know i remember reading that kids will take traits as in looks from there motherand father.

dose any one know if they may also take on traits like if your mom was good at magic will kid have abilty or a chance to be good at it ?

anything any one care to see added besides what we talked about so far ?

when they accouned this on the jounral page the family thing they asked us to talk about it more on forum that is what we are doing.

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I haven't actually seen many ideas thrown around here. It's mostly been two people criticizing an incomplete dynasty system as, shock...incomplete. If you want to throw around ideas, go ahead. But don't act as though the dynasty system is somehow a poor system when it's not even done.

Also, it really helps to use proper grammar/spelling. I don't need perfection, but that last reply is damn hard to read. If english isn’t you're 1st language, then disregard. Also, since you feel I'm trying to hijack this thread, it will be my last reply.

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I would like to see something implmented where you can buy or upgrade or custom make things i am sure that will probably be implmented latter on, ?? where char buy wear armour or you can arm them kinda like you can do it with, units you make.

i would also like to see above things implemented.

also I really love how there as so many rude people on the internet these days, chewing people out for there spelling or grammer, no matter what reason, or to run down peoples ideas becuase you do not feel there good ideas or you seem them as criticizations is kinda trollish.

I remember reading that they are going to allow you to pick who you marry I dot hink it be great thought to be able to pick someone based on stats, and be able to use your supose be awesome right now the supose is just kinda there as a breeder, it would be kindea neat of she or he turns into a unit that can be used.

I think great thing to add to dipolamcy would be the need to send someone to do dipolamcy for example if you want a treat or a peace agreement signed why not use the family members or your unit or your wife as the unit to intitat contact.

so lets say me and you are at war, and you want a peace agreement you would half to send your son daughter or yoru wife to my home or castle or meet me in the field of battle and the request the right to see me if accepted, you would have the abilty to talk to me.

how favorable anther player would be be some what depent on unit you send for example if you send your 1st inline that would have more sway then if you send the 3rd in line for the thrown.

if you send you wife or your self that would be more favaorable and more likly to get you an aduaince then if you send you 5th child in line.

if you send you 3rd in line virgin daughter you could use her to propse marriage for peave accord but if marriage falls through for example your daughter can not have kids so she gets divorce dishonoring your family, then that would hurt relationships and maybe destory the peace agreement.

instead of just hitting a button and being sent into a dipolmatic meeting I think it be neater to half to use family members to set up the meetings.

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Kind of odd how every post on here except for Myle's posts appear to be written in the same manner, no?

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I take offense at that I did not think my spelling was that bad lol and that same as saying well isnt it strange who every one including imhiginjapan but Myles has a zero karma.

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this was a repost sigh, it takes little while i guess for post to appear my mistake I did not know that.

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thanks alot for chewig me out on my speling and gamer honnestt i use my celll phonne too be onn the fourms witth makess typing reallly hard for messages.

touch screen.

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This thread is win. How often does someone make a half dozen accounts to try to get their ideas pushed into a game.

These Cylons approve!

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Strange to be this obvious though, almost as if it's deliberate...

...It's a trap!!

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I do like the thread title. Couldn't we all stand to have a little more Density?

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Quoting jshores,

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This thread is win. How often does someone make a half dozen accounts to try to get their ideas pushed into a game.

I find it rather weird to be honest. [Is it possible that the OP is Hortz himself? ]

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Density is equal to Mass divided by Volume. Maybe if Density is lacking, choose a form of matter that is more condense?

If you just want a higher concentration ... then just cram stuff into solution until you get it saturated, and then try rapidly changing the temperature (or just heat the solution to near boiling) to super saturate the solution.

Either way, I hope your Chemistry woes get fixed soon!

Well, or maybe your referring to "Meme Density" ... although honestly I haven't found many internet memes in Elemental.

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ehh most people just type what they see, so if one person miss spells something and anthere preson just reading it you automatily understand what they are saying, but you just happen to type it worng also becuase you just typing what you are reading and responding back to that.

happens now and then i see it on forums now and then.

but that besides point you are all telling me that there is nothing you like to see add that the family thing is just 100% aokay as it is and that none of you have anything you like to see added to it ?

that is what I am kinda reading here that no one but a few people seem to have any ideas of what they like to see done with it and rest of every one elese just dosnt care ?

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They were telling that there is nothing to criticize yet, as the dynasty system hasn't been implimented. When it'll get to that part in the development phase, they will start putting on suggestions.

In the meanwhile, it isn't worth criticising a half-baked game concept on which the dev haven't had the time to cook properly yet. When they will, it's gonna end up being fun.

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