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[quote who="Sushikawa" reply="72" id="2715679"] Quoting kryo, reply 70The initial plan was to go with pixel-based movement and continuous turns, but most beta testers wanted the more traditional turn-based tilemap combat. So that's the way it ended up going. Who...what? Where was this discussion...? I was under the impression realtime combat was ditched due to technical limitations, not whining.[/quote] Actually, internally they decided that the RTS style w

[quote who="clockwerk" reply="18" id="2715620"] Oh, I agree. But, perhaps these vendors are paying companies to produce exclusive content. As a consumer, are you going to use Steam to buy vanilla Civ5 or are you going to use D2D to purchase Civ5 with two extra civs? Assuming that the prices are the same and you are not a fanboy of a certain services, you're going to purchase it from D2D.[/quote] Doesn't the Steam version come with a Civ? At least they're

In the beta I found every time I got the ability to do higher level quests, more quests would appear. I was never able to run out of things to explore, though I never really tried it on a big map.

[quote who="Anubis208-RG" reply="331" id="2715577"]You know, this is like the complete opposite argument that was made against sins....Back then everyone was raging because "oh no! there's no campaign mode! Stardock should focus more on the single player experience!" Well, guess what, now we have a campaign......[/quote] Different set of people. :)

[quote who="Auggie12" reply="61" id="2715497"] hmm is it possible for me to download the game if a friend of mine (who is in US) gives me the CD KEY ? I am down here in Australia. [/quote] If he buys a retail copy and gives you the key which you register in Impulse? I don't see why not, but you could probably just buy a digital copy yourself in that case and cut out the middle man. (Or he could buy a digital copy as a gift to your account.) One advantage to a d

1. Don't think anybody knows yet, multiplayer and tactical battles haven't been live at the same time in anything publically released. 2. No. Looks like in the expansion. 3. Not that I know of. 4. Not sure. 5. Far as I know it's still simultaneous turns, so yes you're moving at the same time.

[quote who="Elsimir" reply="296" id="2715242"](i apologize in advance if i'm repeating others arguments, this thread is long and while I've read it all its easy to forget sections.) I'm sorry if I've misunderstood how this works but many people are complaining about LAN support being false because the game must connect to the server. What you don't seem to be getting is that while you have the resources like images, sounds stored locally the game data

[quote who="kyogre12" reply="290" id="2715194"] Now I could be wrong, but IIRC the custom servers was never something that was going to be in at release. I was under the impression that it was planned from the start to be something added post-release. I was also under the same impression regarding other MP features, like other modes and such.[/quote] LAN and custom servers were both talked about as a release thing, as much as anything else in the game was. Other mods were mention

[quote who="kochujang" reply="320" id="2715430"] Hmm, I must admit I could be ignorant on a lot of issues in this thread. If this is the case, I apologize in advance. from now on.[/quote] It's cool, there's a lot to read in here. :) I just hope you understand why people are dissatisfied customers (and doing what dissatisfied customers do: complain).

[quote who="Luckmann" reply="306" id="2715364"]As someone who didn't pre-order until it was said that the game would have LAN-support as opposed to the "Stardock servers only" that had been discussed prior to that point, I feel nothing short of cheated. I genuinely thought Stardock was different. Turns out I was wrong. Would that I could get my money back. I now see what the pre-order-and-get-beta scheme is all about. [/quote] Yeah, damn shame. Stuff like that an

[quote who="kochujang" reply="316" id="2715424"] You can either take the paranoid approach (this thread) and firmly believe that no LAN is ever coming, or actually have some faith in Stardock who has until now been very player friendly and has had a good dialogue with its customers.[/quote] We should have faith why, exactly? The direct answer we've gotten is "eventually, maybe, depending on interest" for things that we were told would be around now. I see no reason based on that

[quote who="kryo" reply="286" id="2715159"] Lack of your preferred features does not make the game incomplete or unfinished. It has what we planned for it to have and does what we planned for it to do at launch. The way it is now is the way it's been planned for at least a couple of months now.[/quote] It's interesting how nobody mentioned it to the rest of us a couple months ago, then. I've posted the various quotes in this thread from Brad showing what he said MP would have.

[quote who="kochujang" reply="308" id="2715374"] You are wrong, in this case. There will be custom servers available, but probably not on day 0.[/quote] That's not what they said. What they ACTUALLY said is "no custom servers, MP modding, or random MP maps at release. We'll see how people are using it and might do more later." We've asked for a timetable and a list of what's actually in MP at release, and gotten nothing. There is exactly zero com

[quote who="PurplePaladin" reply="43" id="2715337"]I preordered via a retail store, so I'm guessing that means the same day as the people who did not preorder, of course. I mean, they did not send the preorders out one day sooner, correct Even if so, with my internet speed, it would take me to Wedensday to download it if I had ordered via Impulse. . .[/quote] Sometimes Amazon does send stuff out the day before so you can get it on Tuesday, but yeah. You won't get i

You should wait for a demo to see what release is actually like. Nobody's seen the game since beta 4 (and multiplayer since beta 2), so just what's there and what isn't is kind of an open question.

[quote who="killer105" reply="282" id="2715114"] I take it that you have never worked for a small firm before? Well, welcome to indie development. I won't pretend to be an expert on how Stardock does things or whether anything has actually been put off, as there is very little info on multiplayer that I have seen. However, given the option of delaying the game till Feb. to complete a secondary objective or releasing it in Aug. with the primary focus completed I'd have t

[quote who="StormbringerGT" reply="283" id="2715119"]I hope this game has a turn timer minute now that I think about it. There is a lot more decisions to be made than in Civ and those turns could take like 30 minutes! The tacticals battles alone could take some time. Designing units and redesigning units. Reading quest text. So many Civilization multi player sessions went unfinished because of people waiting and then leaving![/qu

[quote who="killer105" reply="276" id="2715093"] This is why most other companies do not have this level of public participation. They don't want to be heckled by someone pointing out an idea earlier in the development of the game and taking that as commandments written in stone. What is written in a development journal are not promises of what will be and assuming they are is silly. It is unfortunate you are upset, but perhaps in the future you shouldn't pre-order

[quote who="Omnax" reply="271" id="2715087"]to StormbringerGT About random maps in multiplayer, frogboy mentioned that in one of his dev jurnals. If it really ended up that way, I am not sure. There is not any definitive info on MP at all. But it was not long time ago, like month, maybe two max. And because there was no other info then that, I take it as the most actual one.[/quote] Ah. Yeah, that's just lame. :(

[quote who="StormbringerGT" reply="270" id="2715086"] And I'm not being sarcastic. I was curious if you bought or pre-ordered it. Pre-ordering anything is a risk. I work at Gamestop, trust me I know. Esepcially for a beta, so much can change between now and then. Features get cut and added. It's all "at your risk" which is why they usually keep Beta development in house.[/quote] Yep. I did it on the basis of what they were saying would be in the game, and my past good experiences

[quote who="StormbringerGT" reply="266" id="2715081"] You vote with your wallet or so I'm told. Are you buying this game? If so, regardless of what 50 people post here the thousands who buy the game will out voice you.[/quote] I bought it before beta 1, back when MP was going to have custom servers, modding, and various play modes. Thousands of people who want a SP only game are going to be happy I'm sure. I'm not one of them, and at the moment I care about me because those peo

[quote who="BlackRainZ" reply="262" id="2715072"] Your right, I can't set priorities for others but I can tell them what I think their priorities should be and playing a game should not be top priority on anyone's list in life. You can disagree, but it wont change anything. [/quote] But given how many times you've posted the same thing, you do seem to think posting on a forum about a game should be? [quote]I just really think you guys are making a big deal out of nothi

[quote who="kryo" reply="255" id="2715002"] The main thing is really from a support/quality of service point of view. If it's client-server, then 1) you don't have to worry about people opening ports (as most people find that sort of thing confusing and cumbersome at best), and 2) you don't have to worry about Jimbob User trying to host a game on his 486 with 56k dialup and making a horrible game for everyone else. It just provides a much more uniformly positive experience for

[quote who="Anubis208-RG" reply="241" id="2714917"]Here's a question, why don't they make it like sins where you could use 1 game for 2 lan comps, but only 1 online comp?[/quote] I'm not sure why they discontinued that. It was a great player-friendly feature. Since the game is running on the server anyway, you'd think they could enforce it there. Let you connect to your friend for 10 hours and try the game out or some such. Course, they could do the same thing with a guest pass featur

[quote who="Nesrie" reply="237" id="2714906"] I'll tell you what I want, since you didn't ask but presumed to know. I want a list of what's in multiplayer, and what is not in multiplayer. I want information, factual information and none of this redefining terms garbage we've seen in this thread. I also want that list to be clear what is in the game on day 1 and what is planned for the future. None of these arguments or discussion or misunderstandings would have occurred if Sta