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[quote who="Femmefatal48" reply="231" id="2714887"] Kiddie platformers always have a strong babyplay following there's no strategy to them. Just click n go and giggles. I could care less about Trine or any other kiddy platform game. Elemental is a real strategists game and doesn't need any multiplayer elements to make it strong. It will sell high on its single player experience alone just like Galactic Civilization 2 did. Really wished Brad hadn't included

[quote who="Polynomial" reply="220" id="2714844"]I'm not even sure who wants to sit down for hours and play a game like this multiplayer anyways >.>[/quote] Well, Civ 4 is fairly popular online. I've played a fair bit of it, with people you know IRL it's quite a lot of fun (if you play over several sessions). There was also supposed to be other MP modes that would reduce the time to play a game and make it work better. I wonder if those made it in for release?

[quote who="Annatar11" reply="204" id="2714801"]Where do people get the idea that "LAN" automatically means no internet connection? LAN only means you have a bunch of networked computers. Having an internet connection or not doesn't change anything. Playing a game with a computer on the network hosting, and playing with every computer on the network connecting to an online server are both "LAN'. It's a term independent of gaming, making this whole debate silly.[/quote] Because has the

[quote who="Murteas" reply="197" id="2714773"]Tridus, I think that ultimately the issue comes down to this: Stardock decided to put LAN support (i.e. Custom Servers) on the list for post-release. They did that so that they could finish other things that they deemed more important. You feel that any MP game should not only have internet games avaialble but also complete modding and Lan Support at release time or it is unfinished from a MP pe

[quote who="Murteas" reply="193" id="2714723"] Just because this was mentioned in a beta topic, doesn't mean it was promised for the final game. I think people are being intentionally difficult for no reason. Those that want true LAN only play (no internet) will have to wait until custom servers come out.[/quote] People were expecting a feature, and that feature is missing. They voiced their displeasure. It got "difficult" when the thread turned into talking about p

[quote who="StevenAus" reply="174" id="2714598"] However, this issue has developed momentum, whether or not it was a misunderstanding in the beginning. It needs to be resolved somehow - not sure exactly how though. What can be done now to resolve this issue, given what has already happened in this thread and the unlikelihood of any serious clarification being enough to satisfy the various parties involved? Because we are as a community, and Stardock is too, hurting

[quote who="CatfishBiff" reply="173" id="2714594"]What is the process of "attaching" a serial key to an account? It sounds like I have to use a serial key to install the game on multiple computers. But then when someone else wants to play on that system, they have to have their own serial key attached to their account. What is the difference between installing with a serial key and attaching a serial key to an account? I have one copy c

[quote who="Annatar11" reply="172" id="2714583"]I like how Frogboy never actually said "This game has LAN Support", and everyone is jumping on him as if he did. He just gave instructions on how to install the game easily on your networked machines so people could come over and play. Reading comprehension isn't that difficult, people.[/quote] You sure about that? [quote]Beta 2 won’t have the

[quote who="Mythor" reply="168" id="2714566"] You're bitching and moaning because Stardock have said they might make the game more awesome post-release. Seriously. Quit being dicks, everyone.[/quote] I'm complaining because Stardock said they wouldn't release games in an unfinished state, and here we have a game that's IMO somewhat less then finished. You can't do modding and multiplayer at the same time, how is that "finished"? It's their Gamer's Bill of Rights, don't get mad at

[quote who="Icepick" reply="164" id="2714556"] Your definition of LAN support is different. Nowhere does he state that you can play peer-to-peer on the same LAN at release without an Internet connection. He DOES say that they will work on getting it so that players set up their own servers, which sounds like what you want.[/quote] Yeah, my definition of LAN support is the standard one: can be played on a LAN. It's the same one people used in the SC2 thread when bashing Bl

[quote who="Aractain" reply="163" id="2714551"]I guess he means that the only way to play multiplayer is the server software and they arn't releasing the server software so the only way to play multiplayer is via thier servers which means the server has the AI/calculations.[/quote] That seems to be the most rational explanation, but that's not what he said. He said the Stardock servers are required because the AI is on them and not in the game (hence the "how do you pirate that?" comm

[quote who="hermes33" reply="157" id="2714517"]Its not bullshit its stating the obvious. The game is run on the server, everything is calculated on the server and then sent out to the clients. When playing singleplayer you dont have a server do you? Everything is calculated on the players computer.[/quote] Then my computer can't act as a host in multiplayer... why? The stated explanation is that the AI isn't on my computer, that a server at Stardock is pic

[quote who="Gazing" reply="155" id="2714514"]Question: I have 2 computers connected to a router, with decent internet connection (I.E. it's not the issue of my question). Should my brother and myself want to play together, would we need to have to buy two copies of the game, or one will saffice?[/quote] Two.

[quote who="Icepick" reply="153" id="2714505"]Wow...you guys really don't think things through, do you? Frogboy left the thread b/c ya'll were really starting to upset him over the whole lan nitpicky thing, and you do realize that he is the one that decides how many of his company's resources go into multiplayer, if any. I am not a software company CEO, nor do i play one on tv, but if I saw these posts and I was in charge, you'd see multiplayer support sometime in 2012, if ever. The man

[quote who="dragoaskani" reply="100" id="2714298"] Once they release the server client you can be your own server for your god damn lan parties...[/quote] I hate to have to do this... [quote] There's no current timeline, it'll depend on what customers want us to focus our resources on. The first thing we'll want to do is see how many people are playing MP in the first place .[/quote] <a href="http://www.

[quote who="hermes33" reply="144" id="2714470"] How do you know this? Where does it say that you need to log in to impulse when using the server software that will be available later? [/quote] How do you know that it won't?

[quote who="killer105" reply="78" id="2714213"] I didn't know Sins had that feature, but then again I couldn't ever get anyone to play that. Maybe I can get a buddy to check that out, now.[/quote] It's pretty cool. Invite someone over, install (and/or patch) with your Impulse account, then you can use the LAN option. It'll only work for human players (a third will ask for another key), but to show a buddy the game it's a great way to do it.

[quote who="killer105" reply="75" id="2714204"] I agree that historically it was without internet. However, it has been quite some time since I've done a LAN party (I'm one of the few nerds who still does them, at least around here) that doesn't have internet. I just don't see that particular tidbit impacting too many folks these days. As for wanting everyone to have their own copy... that really isn't too much to ask. With the exception of SC1 and Diab

[quote who="killer105" reply="70" id="2714189"] It doesn't have your opinion of what LAN support should be. I could see a person living in a more remote location that doesn't have access to or cannot afford reliable internet, but I find it difficult to believe there are very many with multiple machines in the same household who cannot afford decent internet too. [/quote] Technically (and historically), "LAN play" means you need a LAN to play. If I have a LAN

Nobody really knows yet. But we do know that at release, it appears to be impossible to run multiplayer mods as the custom server option isn't ready yet . AFAIK the python scripting modding option also isn't going to be in at release. Take that how you will.

[quote who="Luckmann" reply="58" id="2714124"] It's not really semantics. It's right there in the abbreviation; Local Area Network. If you require internet access of any kind, there's really no LAN support whatsoever. Servers doesn't have to be on the internet, they can be a part of a local area network. And I have been on many LANs without (stable) connection to the internet, especially when you're having a LAN where you may simply not be able to have all computers hooked up at

[quote who="Daermoth" reply="19" id="2713573"]Could someone tell me, I already asked in another thread but no reply there as of yet. I preordered the game via impulse, it said on the website that I preordered so I closed it. However I have gotten no confirmation email or anything of that sort to confirm this fact, nor does it say on the website that I preordered.. at least I cannot find it, might not know where to look exactly. So could someone tell me if I actually get some sort of email or

Sweet to see morale and abilities in now. :)

[quote quoting="post"] 1. Will I have to pay extra for customs since Stardock is a US company? 2. Will it take extra time to get delivered? Thanks in advance. [/quote] 1. Unpredictable. My experience with shipping from the US is that customs will sometimes ding things, and sometimes they won't. It also depends how Elemental is being shipped. UPS charges a brokerage fee as part of the shipping cost but for a shipment like this you shouldn't have

Looks like it's been under development for years, since the screenshots have a copyright date of 2006. Hope they manage to finish it up, it looks interesting.