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I'd like to address the issue of "green" techs getting prohibitively expensive due to doing a lot of research in one area. If you focus on warfare, warfare warfare, the cost of doing so is that you are not advancing in other areas. This may be a "realism vs fun" issue, but seriously if a faction focused on just warfare, wouldn't they start to get really good at developing warfare tech and thus push research costs down? And I realize this is all still up for a LOT of tweaking.

[quote who="seedrat" reply="8" id="2430795"]Very, very promising! A nice blend of SMAC uncertainty with choices at each breakthrough. One question - after reseaching to Warfare III (30 pts), if I switch to Civilization I does it cost 10 pts or 40? [/quote] Warfare III is 40 points, not 30 (per the OP) so it appears that each level is double the previous. (10,20,40,80(?))

The research screem looks good, the description of how research is going to work looks to be a HUGE improvement! I really like the direction and the ability to direct research but not be sure what your are going to get (or you CAN be sure by going with a green. Very very promising, Bravo Zulu, Great Job!

[quote who="tdgeorge" reply="27" id="2427833"]Another all but forgoten game is The Perfect General II developed by QQP (long since defunct). This was their number 1 game. It provided great single and multi player gameplay. It also came with a map editer. [/quote] Yep. Perfect General 2 was awesome.

[quote who="vieuxchat" reply="68" id="2429120"]Hum .. what about this : There's four areas of development : Civilization, Warfare, Magic, Exploration All techs are invisible when the game starts. Each tech has a pre-requisite value in each area.Each action made in the game will made advance one of the 4 areas. Building cities will improve your civilization stat. Exploring will enhance your exploration stat. Going to war will .. yep you guess it ... raise your

[quote who="Sarudak" reply="28" id="2427643"]I really don't like the idea of taking away the players ability to select research. I know there's some realism but playing a game like this is about selecting your own path not having it selected for you. Selecting the research paths you take is surely no less realistic then selecting your culture or the traits you (the sovereign) were born with. [/quote] He does select areas of research. but if you give the player complete control wi

Idea for research Have general areas of research. You only indicate which general area you want to research, not specific techs: Examples: population growth, weaponry, armor, special resources, resource harvesting etc. I realize this is not much different than the current system - bear with me) If you choose weapons, you will randomly research one of the basic weapons types: clubs, spears, swords, and bows. The reasons for going with rand

[quote who="Frogboy" reply="13" id="2427150"]Here's my beef with the current research mechanism: If I want to get to say horse back riding, I end up having to go through a bunch of largely unlreated techs first. The UI for the current system doesn't lend itself to rapid branching and as a result ends up being quite linear. [/quote] I'd say that sums it up for me. The tech trees don't make sense, it just seems like some things were placed furth

I haven't been a huge fan of the mundane tech tree and how it is presented, but it is also far down on my list of things that I care about in the game. Magic research I hope is done completely differently and I care a lot more about it. The economy, the "family tree", any number of other things matter more to me. I think the current mundane tech is adequate and workable, but it definitely does not add to the fun factor.

@Boogiebac I like your new avatar; did you get Kay to draw it for you? [e digicons]:-"[/e] [e digicons]:rofl:[/e] [e digicons]XD[/e]

[quote who="Ironmanbc" reply="41" id="2426181"]As long as you don’t have an ATI or nVidia card you should be fine. Otherwise, please be prepared to replace your video card. We do expect to decrease the severity by Beta 3 (late Winter). I have a ATI 4850 video card 1gig ddr3 memory onboard it and you say it can't handle what you can throw at it LOL i have a i7 intel chip Asus P6T-Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Motherboard <br

I don't think anything is set in stone yet - that's why the long beta, remember? However, the fact that Frogboy said that he found dealing with resource storage and discrete units "unfun" I think does not bode well - I know if I were making a game I sure wouldn't do something I found unfun no matter how many people wanted it.

[quote who="starriderOU" reply="26" id="2425366"]I wonder if the overheating is due to some calls in DX9. I've had severe overheating problems on my NVIDIA mobile card in my laptop under 64-bit windows under Civilization 4 to the point it is unplayable and I get a hard lockup. Is Elemental running on a DirectX 9 engine? Makes me wonder at the possiblities... [/quote][e digicons]:X[/e]

I don't want to see the "info cards" people come up with to address this. OK, yes I do.

I'm looking forward to that tour...[e digicons]:w00t:[/e] I really miss th early Ultima games...[e digicons]:')[/e]

underwear change on aisle 3! Totally awesome! And for those that suggest because the game has INFORMATION CARDS it makes the game Magic: The Gathering... [e digicons]:P[/e] [e digicons]:thumbsdown:[/e] [e digicons]:annoyed:[/e] [e digicons]:rolleyes:[/e]

Hannibal's collapsing line should be all that needs to be said about the importance of formations. (In real life). There are no tactics to tactical combat really, without them. You might as well hit auto resolve and let the numbers crunch.

Frogboy said to think Magic:Total War in terms of SCALE of battles. A lot of people concluded that means combat is going to be like Total War, and I haven't seen anything to justify that leap of logic. Everything I have heard is that combat will play out more like X-COM than anything else, I think it is going to be much more like MoM than it is like Total War. I think it is oging to be on a grid, which right there should put a lot of your "Real Tme" concerns to rest.

[quote who="Frogboy" reply="15" id="2422556"]Battle Options: battles....... as long as an hour ... [/quote] [e digicons]:drool:[/e] [e digicons]:')[/e] [e digicons]:w00t:[/e] [e digicons]\o/[/e] .

Luckmann, I swear to god you need to be mauled by a bear or something to get you over your rampant ursaphilia! [e digicons]:omg:[/e]

[e digicons]8O[/e] One suggestion on roads is they could just be built organically. So the first time a caravan heads to a nearby city it takes longer as there is no road. Maybe after five caravans it becomes a path, and after "x" caravans it becomes a road? [e digicons]:S[/e] Bah, dumb idea, I don't know let me think on that a while. I LIKE what you say about armies, sounds like there will be some real variety of significant choices. I think my biggest concern so far is

No, moo3 without space lanes would still have been a piece of shit, just without space lanes. I remember during beta (which I was not in) how they kept saying "we are going to make it it's own game". And boy, did they, they had no business putting the Master of Orion name on that stinker.

This is just a "memory enhancer" for anyone that cares about the survey (NON-SCIENTIFIC!) That I took back during the resource discussion days. Emphasis by bolded. 1. Please respond to how strongly you favor each of the features discussed in Elemental: Internal discussions made external. Higher scores for what you like, medium scores for neutral and low scores

Let me guess Kay - cat person? [e digicons]XD[/e]

[quote who="Raven X" reply="42" id="2420443"] Quoting Frogboy, reply 11 I think I agree with you guys. Resource storing = bad idea. Let me talk to the team. Why not just have a Warehouse or a Silo building that can store a limited amount of each resource? If it takes 10 turns to make one knight, would it take 100 turns to make 10 knights? What if I had enough Iron to make 10 Iron Plate Mail suits all at once? If that's true then it