[.915] Empire Scions

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Does anybody use scions? They seem awfully far down the tech tree for being pretty meh. You pay a lot for potential, but have almost no way to capitalize on it, since they can't survive any lategame battles until they hit level 10 or so, but can't gain levels without entering battle (unless you want to just leave them the city with your arena and war temple, so they can take the rest of the game to gain 2 levels). 

Also, they seem to be bugged- if you have a command post, they get an extra starting level, but no trait.  I haven't tried them with warrior caste, so I don't know if they get that level or not. However, they DO get a level-up trait if you edit them and give them the veteran trait. They also have no blood trait, though they are listed as Trogs (which is itself strange if you are not playing Yithril).

I really like Altar's henchmen, and I think that scions should be changed into something like that- support units that get unique traits, or weak magic (but of an offensive kind instead). It would be extra cool to give them nation-specific spells/abilities, but even just a generic set of unique abilities might make them worth recruiting. 

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

Nice thread, tried to use them once, but they just walked around and died.

Also this game need to update its unit designer if you ask me, the editing of units feels weird, instead of being able to design a new scion you have to edit the old... Either that or the editing of old units is a bug and scions are even more rubbish. ;)

I do agree with all you said. except the bug, mostly cause I haven't tested it, bugs do tend to get more notice when posted in a single thread though.

Sincerely
~ Kongdej

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top

I used scions a few times, mostly to turn a bunch of them into PotG for a massive prestige, income and research boosts. But yeah, they are pretty much late game units that needs a lot of babying. The biggest problem is that they can't use hero equipments like henchmens, so you tend to wait until you get the best weapon/armors before really deploying them. The cost to train is a bit of a pain as well.

Although, after playing around with henchmens, I'm sure I could find more use for them as supporting PotD.

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