[quote who="markieness" reply="147" id="2613701"]I wonder if there's an alternate universe where Civ5 is being sold in a nice big box, with a nice big manual, and the special edition has a little statue of the hanging gardens, and i can play it multiplayer over my lan with just one disk, and the phantom menace was good. I want to live there. [/quote] Except for the one disk thing (and the phantom menace thing), the others might still happen. I'm actually h
[quote who="Frogboy" reply="140" id="2613654"]@DeCypher. Steam clearly does not have a chokehold on the PC digital distribution market. If it did, everyone would have to put their titles on it to be commercially viable. According to Valve, they have 25 million accounts. That's about the number of *consumer* PCs that Dell ships each year. It's about the amount of unique visitors Gamespot.com gets per day. Steam has a huge lead in digital distribution and
[quote who="Nesrie" reply="136" id="2613627"] Console wars is not a valid viewpoint because this idea that suddenly PC gaming will die and jump to consoles only has been brought up year after year after year after year after year and still hasn't happened. Is Steam took a nose dive tomorrow, PC gaming isn't going to end as we know it. To a couple of over zealous steam users, I am sure it would feel that way. .[/quote] That's my entire point. Steam already has a choke h
[quote who="Nesrie" reply="133" id="2613601"] Quoting DeCypher00, reply 131 Quoting Nesrie, reply 127 As a consumer, you don't seem to understand the main concern here. Do you know what happens when there is a single victor in a market war, consumers get hosed. CIV 5 on Steam is not smart business for 2k, it's lazy. You act like its either or, that 2K could distribute Civ V on Steam or make it available on Impulse and retail. The truth is they could have
[quote who="Nesrie" reply="127" id="2613568"] As a consumer, you don't seem to understand the main concern here. Do you know what happens when there is a single victor in a market war, consumers get hosed. CIV 5 on Steam is not smart business for 2k, it's lazy. You act like its either or, that 2K could distribute Civ V on Steam or make it available on Impulse and retail. The truth is they could have done both. A lot of publishers do both.[/quote] Like Windows is completely hosing
[quote who="Houlio" reply="122" id="2613505"]Tell me if I'm wrong, but aren't console games a higher price at release ($60) than PC games ($50) since the consoles, as frogboy says, are a closed market and can take a piece of the profits while PC games are an open market? Isn't Civ V a step in that direction, ie you HAVE to use steamworks while running the game?[/quote] Ubisoft games are all $60 now on all platforms. Steamworks is not a step in that direction, publishers like Ubi
I find all this fear of Steam becoming a big evil empire kind of funny. It's already a big empire. Impulse is the Linux to Steam's Windows. Being afraid that Valve will control all publishing is silly. You know what happens when they overstep boundaries? Consumers and developers can easily move to consoles. It's already happening for the most part. Valve is not stupid enough to destroy the PC gaming industry. Please give them some credit. I feel like I'm in a Linux for
[quote who="Wintersong" reply="71" id="2612804"] And for much as some of us would love Impulse banning from its store some publishers/games due to the DRM they use, it seems unrealistic froma business point of view? On the other hand, I'll be happily buying this one: http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2010/05/01/alpha-protocol-pc-drm-details/[/quote] Not off topic at all, Wintersong. You actually hit the nail on the head. The reason Impulse supports Ubisoft and not Steam is bec
[quote who="Peace Phoenix" reply="67" id="2612797"] Steamworks is not Steam. Steam is not Steamworks. Steamworks' best equivalent is Windows Live. The reason you don't see Steamworks on Impulse is because they choose not to support it (yet support Ubisoft's DRM). Not quite. Brad (the CEO of Stardoc) has stated numerous time that the problem with Steamworks is that it requires in order to play the game to launch the Steam client with access to the Steam store. That is why
[quote who="bonscott" reply="64" id="2612794"] That's fine for you. BUT THIS IS PRIMARILY A SINGLE PLAYER GAME! Why do I want anything to do with online stuff while playing? Maybe Steam is the best thing since sliced bread for you FPS and multiplayer only games, but this is a single player game here. I DO NOT need anything from Steam and WILL NOT be forced to install it let alone have it run in "offline mode" just to play a *single player* game. J
[quote who="bonscott" reply="61" id="2612788"]While I don't like digital distribution exclusives I can live with Civ 5 being sold digitally only thru Steam. My problem is that even if I buy a retail boxed copy at the local Best Buy I am *forced* to install and use Steam. WHY?!? No reason whatsover. Thus, for the first time in 20 years I will not be buying a Civ game. [/quote] And if you buy Settlers 7 from Impulse, you will be forced
[quote who="joasoze" reply="59" id="2612782"] Quoting DeCypher00, reply 54 you just have to eventually install Steam, well, there you have it. Regarding your post comparing impulse with steam. You forgot point 7. Steam will have to run for you to play even in offline mode. Impulse doesnt.[/quote] Yes, but that completely negates your point of Steam being the "only" place you can buy it. How is it different from installing Windows Live? How is a 20MB
The next step: Buy our game and come into approved UbiCenters ® , where you can play your games under the supervision of UbiTechs ® . Official photo ID such as passport or state issued driver's licenses required for entry.
[quote who="Wintersong" reply="56" id="2612770"] Hypocrisy to ask for a single player game to be (or have without extra modes like the "offline mode" of Steam) offline and don't force me to use the internet? And you dare to compare it with my right to enjoy the multiplayer game known as "Posting in a forum"? Next level raise your Perception skill. It lacks. .[/quote] Single player game in Impulse: 1) Open Impulse 2) Buy game 3) Download and install game<br
[quote who="joasoze" reply="51" id="2612757"]This isnt a rally against DRM (for me anyways). The problem is not that CIV V is on Steam. The problem is that it is Steam ONLY...[/quote] No it's not. It uses Steamworks. They will be using 2k publishing for the in store copies. Steamworks is not Steam. Steam is not Steamworks. Steamworks' best equivalent is Windows Live. The reason you don't see Steamworks on Impulse is because they choose not to support it (yet support Ubisoft's
I love all the furor over Steamworks when Impulse sells Ubisoft games. Yeah, way to rally against DRM, when you yourself support draconian DRM that doesn't add ANY features. Steamworks is nothing more than Windows Live. The only difference is that Steam is a better distribution platform than Windows Live (yes, Windows Live does sell games). I'll be happily playing this game. And when my clanmates need to fill our TF2 server, they can send me a Steam message me while I'm in a Civ 5 gam
[quote who="SwerydAss" reply="144" id="2605284"]the base 7900 is 450 if your looking at one that is 500 then it was overclocked be the company that made that particular one [/quote] Sorry, I just picked the first two examples of each card to compare. The 7900 GS is more often overclocked because it's (or was, I guess) a midrange card targeted towards gamers. The 8400 GS is designed for media PCs.
[quote who="SwerydAss" reply="142" id="2605253"]It does support new graphics technology though.. It shouldn't give you a lower score however. [/quote] Uh, yes it should. A 2.8 Ghz CPU is slower than a 3.2 Ghz one. Why would it be different for GPUs? The 7900 GS core clock is 500Mhz. The 8400 GS core clock is 450Mhz. Every new generation brings new software and possibly new hardware, but core clock is still core clock and there are always consumer, mid range,
[quote who="kona0197" reply="139" id="2605188"]Graphics score came down thereby bringing the total score down to a 3.7. Makes no sense as i was running a Gforce 7900 GS with 256 MB memory. The new card is a Gforce 8400 GS with 512 MB memory. Overall many of my programs run better with the new card. Makes no sense to me.[/quote] Just FYI, the second number of an nvidia card is actually its power rating (in terms of GPU speed). The first number is more of a generation number.
[quote who="ozo" reply="40" id="2593195"] Quoting kona0197, reply 37Too much money? Go buy a nice mountain bike. Meh... i'm not the biker type... Besides, there are no mountains in Finland. And certainly not in Helsinki, it's all even.. Hmm. I wonder how long it will take before Apple makes another iPad, and whether it'll actually address all the weaknesses of the current iPad. Non-replaceable battery, no flash, no multitasking. Those are the biggest issues right?[/quote]
[quote who="ozo" reply="34" id="2592439"]Interesting... what happens if i remove the iPhone from iPad? EDIT wait, what that's Archos thing? Half the battery life, no touch screen (trackpoint and mousebuttons? No TY)... Skype is nice but i have a cellphone for talking. And it ain't much cheaper either... Plus it has Windows 7... while i haven't had any real problems with WinVista, i don't want every device i own to have Windows or Microsoft on it.[/quote] You don't want Wind
[quote who="Savyg" reply="33" id="2589254"]Yep. The sad thing is, it kinda works. I wouldn't go to some random place in Asia and expect everyone to speak perfect English [/quote] It' a really bad imitation of a Singaporean accent. They probably made everything bad on purpose, though.
[quote who="Raven X" reply="50" id="2587418"] Quoting DeCypher00, reply 49 You also keep ignoring the fact that people, kids especially, want the latest and the greatest. Why buy a BMW when a Civic gets you from point A to point B? Because you can afford it, and it's a better car. I'm not "Ignoring it' as much as I'm thinking the way things are now will simply change. The "latest and greatest" will in fact be the services them-selves and not the high end model of "car" or
[quote who="Raven X" reply="48" id="2587373"] Everyone eats bread right? Right. How many people today bake their own bread verses how many go to the store and pick up a loaf for $2? My grandmother bakes some of our bread her-self, but it's more of a special treat, not something she does often. Baking our own bread takes a lot of time and effort and the cost weighed against simply running to the store to buy bread is HUGE in comparison. Playing games on a service like this base
