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November 12, 2009 10:40:47 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums

Is this normal for Vista?

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RedneckDude
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Reply #1 November 12, 2009 11:27:13 PM
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Yes. Hide your System files in Folder Options.

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Reply #2 November 12, 2009 11:28:19 PM
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NTUSER.DAT files are the HKEY_CURRENT_USER hive for the registry. They are logs of changes that have been made to the user registry hives (ntuser.dat). They are usually hidden files, but you should keep them.

One NTUSER.DAT for each user on the machine, some templates and repair.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator

C:\Documents and Settings\Default User

C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService

C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService

C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\NTUSER.DAT

C:\WINDOWS\repair

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\systemprofi…


If the file attributes say they are hidden and you can see them, then hidden files and folders must have been made visible in Control Panel > Folder Options. Re-hide them there.

I would suggest that you leave any NTUSER.DAT files alone. NTUSER.DAT files are  essential.

Hope, this works out for ya, RedneckDude.

If not try this,

 

(It's even waterproof)

 

 

 

 

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Reply #3 November 12, 2009 11:59:14 PM
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Quoting iKashmir,
reply 2
NTUSER.DAT files are the HKEY_CURRENT_USER hive for the registry. They are logs of changes that have been made to the user registry hives (ntuser.dat). They are usually hidden files, but you should keep them.

One NTUSER.DAT for each user on the machine, some templates and repair.


C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator


C:\Documents and Settings\Default User


C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService


C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService


C:\Documents and Settings\Your Name Here\NTUSER.DAT



C:\WINDOWS\repair

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\systemprofi…


If the file attributes say they are hidden and you can see them, then hidden files and folders must have been made visible in Control Panel > Folder Options. Re-hide them there.

I would suggest that you leave any NTUSER.DAT files alone. NTUSER.DAT files are  essential.



Hope, this works out for ya, RedneckDude.

If not try this,



 

(It's even waterproof)

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks, I googled it too.

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Reply #4 November 12, 2009 11:59:37 PM
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Quoting yrag,
reply 1
Yes. Hide your System files in Folder Options.

Thanks, Yrag.

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Reply #5 November 13, 2009 12:07:26 AM
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No problem........

.........now stop looking for shit to break........

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Reply #6 November 13, 2009 4:41:39 AM
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The problem with hiding system folders is some programs, like Sins of a Solar Empire for example, stores items you need to access in those folders. For that game, if you hide folders, you cant access mods or user created maps

 

Bit dumb if you ask me...

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Reply #7 November 13, 2009 11:19:21 AM
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Quoting Fuzzy Logic,
reply 6
The problem with hiding system folders is some programs, like Sins of a Solar Empire for example, stores items you need to access in those folders. For that game, if you hide folders, you cant access mods or user created maps

 

Bit dumb if you ask me...

I have them unhidden because I frequently need access to appdata for DX purposes.

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Reply #8 November 16, 2009 7:14:12 PM
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The problem with hiding system folders is some programs, like Sins of a Solar Empire for example, stores items you need to access in those folders. For that game, if you hide folders, you cant access mods or user created maps

Games really should be saving user prefs/mods into the docs folder... right?  You shouldn't need to change system settings to be able to access certain critical game files. I think I'll prod the sins team about this


Mike

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Reply #9 November 16, 2009 10:57:36 PM
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I have them unhidden because I frequently need access to appdata for DX purposes.

For ease of access, I would just create a desktop or taskbar shortcut to your AppData folder. You would also be able to turn your hidden file setting back on and still access them this way.

This would work in Fuzzy's case as well.

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Reply #10 November 17, 2009 12:30:26 AM
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Reply #11 November 17, 2009 2:54:27 AM
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Games really should be saving user prefs/mods into the docs folder... right? You shouldn't need to change system settings to be able to access certain critical game files. I think I'll prod the sins team about this

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Reply #12 November 17, 2009 3:01:22 AM
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An example: Here's the mods folder in Sins, safely locked away in the back of beyond...

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Reply #13 November 17, 2009 3:29:40 AM
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Quoting milksama,
reply 8
...
Games really should be saving user prefs/mods into the docs folder... right?  You shouldn't need to change system settings to be able to access certain critical game files. I think I'll prod the sins team about this
...

No, Games, AND Applications,
should save ALL their data AND settings in the Games/Applications OWN folder,
in order to make backups easier.

A good example of this is WinAmp v2.95.
I have had this running since Windows 95, WITHOUT ever re-installing it.
All I've ever had to do was simply copy over the folder from drive to drive,
and after the initial start where it writes itself into the resgitry or whatever,
it runs just fine, without me having to edit/change settings!

 

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Reply #14 November 17, 2009 5:37:14 AM
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For ease of access, I would just create a desktop or taskbar shortcut to your AppData folder. You would also be able to turn your hidden file setting back on and still access them this way.
  Best way, can get access to MSIE Cache, Temp folders in AppData etc this way.

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Reply #15 November 17, 2009 6:25:39 AM
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sorry m-203, but for computer security ONLY installers should be able to write to applications folders when they have superuser/administrator permission, and the applications should ONLY access the data folders in a seperate branch of the directory tree, as the way you suggest gives full write/read/execute access to all application folders for VIRUSES/trojans/rootkits/keyloggers/spyware to infect all applications that are in the computer, but I think that apps should only access a folder tree in the my documents area so that we DO have easy backup of all data. I personally think that the current location is TO BLOODY WELL HIDDEN  to be a practical location and that the localapps data area should be for TEMP files ONLY and cleared each re-boot

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Reply #16 November 17, 2009 10:23:58 PM
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Quoting M-203,
reply 13

Quoting milksama, reply 8...
Games really should be saving user prefs/mods into the docs folder... right?  You shouldn't need to change system settings to be able to access certain critical game files. I think I'll prod the sins team about this
...
No, Games, AND Applications,
should save ALL their data AND settings in the Games/Applications OWN folder,
in order to make backups easier.
A good example of this is WinAmp v2.95.
I have had this running since Windows 95, WITHOUT ever re-installing it.
All I've ever had to do was simply copy over the folder from drive to drive,
and after the initial start where it writes itself into the resgitry or whatever,
it runs just fine, without me having to edit/change settings!

 

This is how Linux works. Apple as well if I recall.

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Reply #17 November 18, 2009 6:53:27 AM
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A good example of this is WinAmp v2.95.

I have had this running since Windows 95, WITHOUT ever re-installing it.

All I've ever had to do was simply copy over the folder from drive to drive,

and after the initial start where it writes itself into the resgitry or whatever,

it runs just fine, without me having to edit/change settings!

Ditto....I have several proggies just the same way...from one install to another...

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Reply #18 November 18, 2009 7:11:47 AM
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I've used ACDSee32 right from W98. All I do is copy the folder and it works.

Why don't I use a newer program? Um, because it works...

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Reply #19 November 18, 2009 7:36:52 AM
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I've used ACDSee32 right from W98. All I do is copy the folder and it works.

Why don't I use a newer program? Um, because it works...

Yep, that's one of them....[tho you do need to remind it where the plugins are...and it restarts]...

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