[quote who="Jandurin" reply="30" id="2772981"]Let's just keep it to the base entry price of the game which allows you all in game features [/quote] Fine, leave my time argument out. See if I care. It's much better than your bacon sammy crap.
[quote who="Jandurin" reply="11" id="2772963"] Quoting wayninja, reply 9 Ok, and? I didn't say anything about AI or forced placement...so you get 2 level 2 cities that you can place where you want? But then wouldn't you have access to the map before it's actually been generated? Or would you have 2 cities in your back pocket that automatically start at level 2 when you find a proper place to put them during gameplay? *Confused*[/quote]  
Well now we are just playing economics... since you can get the game new for around 27 dollars now, can't I argue that you paid 27 for the game and 23 for 'time'?
[quote who="Raven X" reply="171" id="2772936"] Quoting wayninja, reply 169 Time Constraints? What time constraints? I thought this was published because it was believed to be 'ready' and no external influence was dictating the timing... Frogboy already addmitted he messed up saying it was ready when it wasn't ready and why he thought what he did. There were major time contraints laid on the team when the release date got pushed up to make the first windo
[quote who="Frogboy" reply="88" id="2772829"] I'm not sure how they will work out. I'm writing Book 2 and 3 myself and the tools are somewhat more powerful now than when Book 1 was made. The campaigns weren't really designed to be a major feature of the game so it really depends on what the community is looking for.[/quote] I'm having trouble understanding why, if the campaign is not designed to be a major feature, are the expansions books 2 and 3? Aren't
[quote who="Jandurin" reply="8" id="2772879"] Even though I rarely move much (for the first city anyway), I really like placing my cities exactly where I want.[/quote] Ok, and? I didn't say anything about AI or forced placement... I'm sure some people will balk again at the comparison, but Civ 4 had an awesome advanced start mechanic whereby everyone got 'points' to spend before the game on units and techs and you could place c
[quote who="Frogboy" reply="88" id="2772829"] Quoting wayninja, reply 87 If the info is elsewhere on this, I apologize, but can we expect books 2 and 3 to be more significant in terms of gameplay hours than book 1 (which took me about 2 hours, and I was taking my sweet time)? I'm not sure how they will work out. I'm writing Book 2 and 3 myself and the tools are somewhat more powerful now than when Book 1 was made. The campaigns weren't really designed to be a
[quote who="Raven X" reply="168" id="2772862"] Quoting wayninja, reply 167FML = F My Life Basically, StarReaper was saying that this thread is basically more salt in the wound. Ahh, thanks. I don't see it as more salt in the wound. I see it as a reminder of what their original inspiration was and what they wanted to achieve. I'm still trying to figure out a good reason aside from Time Constraints as to why things were simplified so much from what the initial p
While we are ripping other games... What about 'Advanced Start', where each civ starts with 2 rank 2 cities and a few levels in each tech and a few defenders...
FML = F My Life Basically, StarReaper was saying that this thread is basically more salt in the wound.
1SuperG, that's foolish. CookPro is a REAL TIME recipe management system. Elemental is turn based. Do some reading, jeesh.
[quote who="Frogboy" reply="84" id="2772804"] Quoting Wintersong, reply 80 Quoting Frogboy, reply 70Beyond v1.1, the first free expansion pack will have a new combat system, new tactical battle system, book 2, and a host of other things but that won't happen until Thanksigiving time frame. The second expansion pack, next year, is also planned to be free for users who own the game before v1.1 is released (first expansion free for all, second free to those who were with us
[quote who="MOIISKA" reply="40" id="2772791"] Quoting wayninja, reply 39 Quoting MOIISKA, reply 37Bah.. I am not going to argue with you e-hero's. If Civ is your favorite game, go post on civ fanatics. If you like Elemental, stay here. The end. How much must I like it in order to be allowed to stay? You are the one deciding what I like or don't. I just thought I would help you out. There is too much negativity on
I've had it happen to a few conquered cities, but never to my empire as a whole.
HAHAHAHA... I love how no one is reading the OP and just keying on the word epic. This thread is epic win.
Well, it's a large bag of popcorn... from reading this thread I can't tell if that qualifies. The butter, however, is epic. There can be no debate. It's bacon flavored.
Lol, funny how every discussion about epic-ness devolves into a battle of dictionaries. *gets popcorn out*
What about option 3; Don't require a 'beach' in order to build a harbor. A city close enough to water should be able to field naval units and board/disembark from transports. I'm not really sure why these special beach points are necessary. They don't really add any meaningful strategic value as is since they AI doesn't seem to care about attacking you from sea...
[quote who="MOIISKA" reply="37" id="2772490"]Bah.. I am not going to argue with you e-hero's. If Civ is your favorite game, go post on civ fanatics. If you like Elemental, stay here. The end.[/quote] How much must I like it in order to be allowed to stay?
To be fair, MOO2, which is arguably one of the best 4x games of all time suffered the same problem. Even on impossible, there always came a tipping point that if you could withstand, the game invariably became one big downhill mop-up. But I do agree that this seems more pronounced in Elemental. The game simply doesn't draw you along like Civ does and force a pace that nearly guarantees each 'x' to be fleshed out. Early rushing and city spamming is basi
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I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. [quote quoting="post"] -the game not only allows city spamming but rewards it. Hard to get the feeling we're struggling to bring back civilization when you can't hardly swing a dead cat without hitting a bunch of cities.[/quote] Nothing kills the feel of mankind struggling on a broken world more than this. [quote] -essence started off being very important for revitalizi
[quote who="MOIISKA" reply="28" id="2772209"] Quoting wayninja, reply 26 Quoting Rune_74, reply 21Why did this get to a Civ 5 vs Elemental thread? I think because a lot of folks playing EWoM and discussing it here are hoping that CIV 5 will having everything that they were hoping for in EWoM... That's not to say it will, but damn, that video is just chock full of 'nice touches' that, had they been present in EWoM, would have made t
Can someone explain to me what this petition is about? I can't seem to find it in the 7 pages. I'm just getting vague notions of 'epic' through graphic manipulations. If that's the case, I vote yes. The graphics should be better. That is what this boils down to, right?
[quote who="Jeffro23" reply="43" id="2772288"]I hope you aren't comparing this to Civ IV. I hated Civ IV.[/quote] Based on most reviews you are in the minority... And FFH is pretty much one of the best user made mods for a TBS strategy game of all time. So...sucks to be you.