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Warlock and either Elemental or FE have about as much in common as they both do with Civ V, Civ IV, FFH, and AoW. In other words, they're part of the same basic turn-based, fantasy-themed strategy genre. Beyond that, they're worlds apart.

[quote]+ Killing guardians now correctly clears the wildland[/quote] Excellent.

[quote who="Bellack" reply="23" id="3147678"] It is only natual and heatlthy to compare like games. The game most compare this game to is MOM but others have been compared to. I think we want may of the features in those other game but made modern and better.[/quote] It certainly makes sense to compare games at the same point in their development cycle. But the current beta for Warlock is a week old, extremely late beta, and the game releases tomorrow.

[quote who="DanielZKlein" reply="4" id="3147166"]Also Kalin, I'm not a huge fan of comparing games and I tried not to focus on that. The reason I brought up Warlock at all was because it made the issue of murkiness/muddiness clear for me (in that it had none of it). There's a very good chance I'll hate Warlock once I play it more (I'm definitely getting it), and I have no doubt that I'll keep playing FE when new versions come out.[/quote] There's

Having played the legit beta of Warlock for the last month, I can honestly say it is a far less ambitious game than FE in many respects, and good fun. It's much further along the curve to completion because it's due out in a couple of days, while FE is due out in the fall. For all the mid-beta issues one would naturally expect with FE at this point, I actually find it more compulsively interesting than Warlock, but I prefer more complex strategy titles.

[quote who="hedetet" reply="8" id="3145580"]Sounds like a bug, my guess is that the Monster AI tries to go after the pioneer that founded the city/outpost (and fails because it no longer exists), resulting in inaction (guardian) or targetting the next closest thing (wandering mob).[/quote] Yet the monsters won't attack an AI-run city even if they're within the city limits. The problem seems to be that to the monsters, the AI-run content--cities,

[quote who="Yazari" reply="84" id="3145886"] I played all my games on the default settings (Moderate/Moderate/Medium/Balanced) outside of difficulty which was set to hard. I agree that the challenge currently is from the randomness of monster placement - I imagine dense is a lot tougher - I will give that a shot.[/quote] Dense is tougher at the start. More monster lairs. Also more challenging to play this way against enemies, since the monsters don'

[quote who="luketan" reply="2" id="3145835"]Interesting, so your Pariden Soverign doesnt melee much? which means no need for flame blade.[/quote] I give it to my chosen champion, who carries my leader's crown. [quote]Yeah summoner is nice early on but I thinking long term...[/quote] Thing is, Pariden is such a wimp at melee, that you'll likely to need spellbooks from the start to deal with any battles at all, or Summoner.

[quote quoting="post"] Another option would be to add another screen to the trait selection screen. When selecting a spell trait, but before you click OK, this screen would pop up. It will show you exactly what spells will become available. Mockup: http://i.imgur.com/j775b.png The spells listed there can be clicked to be shown in hiergamemon, or hovered over to read their description. This additional screen is SCROLLABLE and DYNAMIC (think of the modders, please).

[quote quoting="post"] Logically we should use Pariden? Profession : Summoner or Warlock i guessing Warlock is more powerful since summons are weak?[/quote] Warlock has longterm advantages, but Summoner gives you the Summon Shadow Warg spell from your first turn. Given how poor Pariden leaders are at melee, and how many heroes you acquire aren't especially good at this either, it's very, very helpful in the early game. <br

[quote who="Kalin" reply="65" id="3145471"]Yeah, the current leveling is a bit too rough. It was a bit too easy before, but now it feels like it's impossible to get past level 12 or so... which means you aren't going to get those spells unless you only pick one path and get really lucky or something. They probably needs to ease off on it a bit. Right now the only way to get high spell level seems to be at char creation, put all your points into spell books.[/quote]

...Or you can hope the developers include some AI rules negating the question every single turn. As no other turn-based strategy game has included this request for entry each turn, I have to wonder whether it be included in the final release.

[quote who="Heavenfall" reply="7" id="3144471"]There's a lot of bad stuff too, that topic hasn't been updated.[/quote] I wouldn't call it "bad stuff." It gives the core mechanics well enough, but needs an update, as you state. Still, if someone wants a sense of how the game differs from WoM, or just what it's foundation is, I think the info on that link is pretty good. [quote]Anyway, Kingdoms get Storm Dragon Camps, Troll Camps,

Does anybody give their heroes this? I convert mine into mages.

As I noted in a thread below, it's intermittent for me. Sometimes, the bolt comes directly from my unit, and will stay that way for that entire battle. But probably two out of three battles, it still comes from the side.

[quote]+ Fixed an issue causing mage staves and occasionally arrows to shoot in from the side of the screen[/quote] Still happening with Panca Archers. EDIT: Intermittent. Saved, quit, reloaded, and got into another battle where it didn't happen, at all. Then later still, it happened again throughout another battle.

[quote who="WaitingOnTheGame" reply="2" id="3144534"]ouch, sounds like someone got rofl pawnt[/quote] No, we're just all testing the game. And this was a point that was discussed, about monsters above a certain level coming upon cities too early. Worth pointing out that it still happens.

Had an assassin demon wander into my only city on turn three. My sovereign was unable to do anything about it, of course.

[quote who="GoodRevrnd" reply="5" id="3144461"]So does only the tile you found the city on matter as like a base multiplier for growth/production, or does it add all the tiles together?[/quote] Only the one you founded your city on. There's some good material here: https://forums.elementalgame.com/419432

[quote who="Heavenfall" reply="1" id="3144393"]This is a known issue in one of my mods. You didn't perhaps forget to turn them off?[/quote] Bah. You're correct. Derek, my apologies.

Second time this has happened to me, so I thought I'd mention it: a wolf token, activated by my sovereign, is a wolf, but named Sand Golem.

[quote who="DsRaider" reply="70" id="3144351"]While the patch looks awesome and I can't wait to play I was hoping we would see some more faction differentiation stuff thrown in.[/quote] That's for the next major improvement patch. These mini patches, as I understand it, are for fixing bugs and dealing with balance issues.

I want to see an animation of a little guy being led in, in handcuffs, followed by the defender pointing out and shouting, "It's him! He's the one who's been shooting at me from the sidelines whenever me and my pals have been going up against this other gang, officer! I'd recognize that scar, anywhere!"

Interesting. Out earlier than expected. Much obliged; downloading now.

[quote who="mqpiffle" reply="63" id="3144097"]I was under the impression that beta 3 was all about faction differentiation....[/quote] It is. This is just pretty much one of a series of small fix-it patches.