Stardock has already proven that it ignores such forums. WoM had an Ideas Forum full of people brimming ideas and capable modders who were actually willing to do most of the work and just wanted to help improve the game. They all pretty much got snubbed.
Valentine82
[quote who="AlLanMandragoran" reply="17" id="3270975"] I respect your opinion you don't like the game. I get it. But to label anyone who likes the game a fanboy with clouded judgment?[/quote] You mean calling anyone writing glowing reviews of the game a fanboy. Like I said, judging this game in context you can like it but you can't say it's an 8 out of 10 honestly, giving it a 7 is generous when it falls short of decades old titles in nearly everything it sets out to
[quote who="King_Felix" reply="8" id="3270756"] I believe you bulit up some expectations and now that FE is not living up to them you are disappointed. [/quote] Stardock built up peoples expectations about WoM like Peter Molyneux and delivered in the same way. If my expectations were too high it's because the game I bought is not the game Stardock told me they were making, and falls short of MoM, HOMM, AoW2, and AoWSM, all of which this game keeps getting compared to disfavorably.
[quote who="leeboy26" reply="32" id="2890612"]The key difference is fun. AoW:SM is great fun to play. Elemental in my opinion is a chore.[/quote] Truth.
[quote quoting="post"] When I see the link that I may qualify for FE, I'm excited and logging into to my gamestop account that I haven't used in some time to get FE. I say GS, because that was what my account was migrated to after logging into Stardock Central. So, Elemental: War of Magic was installed, but wasn't upgraded to FE. Why not? I had purchased Elemental a while back, and it buggy enough that I gave up playing it. Lately, I've heard that FE has resolved many is
[quote who="erischild" reply="88" id="3273673"]> 60 As an old D&D purist, this is the first time I have tried anything like an RPG game. [/quote] ... Oh my god. You've missed out on so much. Go to GoG now and check out Arcanum of Steamwork and Magic Obscura, Baldur's Gate 2 Shadows of Amn, Planescape Torment, Mask of the Betrayer, if you're into
32 old school TBSG and GSG player, but I wouldn't count myself as an Elemental demographic. I consider this game boring and lacking 70% of the style and substance that made HOMM AoWSM and all the other classics worth playing.
[quote who="Femmefatal48" reply="41" id="3150034"]Something you could never do in MOM but could EASILY do in AOW:SM was make an alliance and then march 3 STACKS of units over to the AI's capital doorsteps then declare war and win every single time. Most stupid AI design of any game I've ever seen.[/quote] That was the Diplomacy AI, the Diplomacy in Shadow Magic in general sucked, but it was really easy to get stuck in permanent war so you must have had a specific exploit routi
[quote who="Black-Knight" reply="26" id="2885991"]But it is true that the AI doesn't build pioneers and is unable to use boats either in a strategic manner (neither does the AI in EWOM).[/quote] The community patch/mods fixed that though, it would have been nice to see fixed in an official patch but they haven't worked on it in years, modders never left it though Shadow Magic has extremely dedicated modders to this day. [quote who="Black-Knight" reply="24" id="2885824"
[quote who="ins2" reply="1" id="3270792"]Now THIS is a constructive, courteous and well-thought out criticism, which points out some of the same things other posters have been saying with full respect for the game and its developers - while I may not agree 100% with your assessment, I congratulate you on your way of stating it ... [/quote] Yeah, this is the type of constructive criticism and feedback that you golf clap at then falls down the forum and never gets read by anyone.</
[quote who="parrottmath" reply="63" id="3270716"]Fairly I haven't ignored what you have said. I've read what you said several times, I was having difficulties on deciphering what you were meaning because like I said before I've never played those games[/quote] I understand that deprives you of context which makes this game seem better since you don't really have much to compare it to, and makes it harder for you to understand what I mean when I say it's not just th
See this is where the positive reviews of the game keep coming from, an insulated bubble of about two dozen diehard fans. This game deserves mediocre reviews, not overly negative ones but certainly not glowingly positive reviews. It falls short of it's potential in pretty much every way, even the diplomacy is still crap and the text on the diplomacy screen has no opaque background and is hard to read. Seriously everything, just everything, stops a tenth of the way t
[quote who="parrottmath" reply="51" id="3270543"]So your major complaint after sifting through all your arguments is that the game doesn't have enough altering visuals for an imersive experience.[/quote] No that's only part of it, you've been ignoring most of what I've typed apparently, but seriously some altering visuals would be easy as hell for Stardock to do if they actually cared about getting past the two dozen diehard fans on the forums who will never admit Star
[quote who="clearstar" reply="47" id="3270531"]So many deep complex games you can say are "bland" and "boring"[/quote] I've provided all the context I need to justify the statement. [quote who="clearstar" reply="47" id="3270531"]has too many mechanics is contradictory. [/quote] Mechanics alone do not make a good game. Your OS has a ton of mechanics and you don't play it, you use it to access other things.
[quote who="clearstar" reply="43" id="3270522"]Starcrap is such a simplistic and stream lined overated RTS for the sake of speed action and quick simple solutions.[/quote] I know, I wasn't comparing it favorably, I was saying I don't consider it any kind of Strategy Game. The point I was making is that ActiBlizzard delivered exactly what they said they were going to deliver, Stardock didn't. Stardock pulled a Peter Molyneux on us, this game isn't even one tenth
[quote who="parrottmath" reply="41" id="3270515"] Quoting Valentine82, reply 37Not just diversity, DEPTH, Elemental is bland, it's boring, I'm not the only one to say so lots of players have given up on this game lots of posts have said as much this is an observation that has echoed time and time again. Again I don't understand it. I've looked at other posts about this and was just as confused. Some of them have given up on the game and some of them decided to
[quote who="moltobenny" reply="38" id="3270503"]If you say "bland and boring" one more time... Jesus. Anyway, you'd make your points better without all the flailing hyperbole and hysteria. But I guess that would take the fun out of it.[/quote] I'm not the only some saying Bland and Boring, it's been repeated over and over, I saw two threads stating as much when I reinstalled the game for Fallen Enchantress to see what's changed.
[quote who="stage62" reply="36" id="3270497"]Sounds like a party pooper to me.[/quote] If you enable companies to make bad decisions by insulating them from criticism and brown nosing them while everyone who's critical either gives up or is run off you trap the company in a bubble of positive feedback where they'll fail to reach their potential and drag down the product. Without haters this industry would be a wasteland. [quote who="stage62" reply="36" id="3270497"]Shi
[quote who="parrottmath" reply="35" id="3270486"] You suggest there is more diversity and elemental doesn't have this diversity.[/quote] Not just diversity, DEPTH, Elemental is bland, it's boring, I'm not the only one to say so lots of players have given up on this game lots of posts have said as much this is an observation that has echoed time and time again. Elemental is a boring shallow game, it's not a true 4X Game and what differences you can name are no more
[quote who="Kalin" reply="32" id="3270483"]You know... normally I'd take comments about my creativity with much glee, but I'm afraid I have to admit that it takes ABSOLUTELY NO CREATIVITY WHATSOEVER to not be threaten by monsters when playing Tarth, or to cast monoliths everywhere when playing Pariden, or to stack henchmens when playing Altar. I can't claim any credit on those creativity. If there's any involve, you might want to direct it to the people who DESIGNED THOSE fact
[quote who="Emperor_Nero" reply="30" id="3270474"] I agree with Kalin. You obviously haven't even tried[/quote] Yes I have, you're just judging this game entirely in a vaccuum and without regard to anything Stardock promised back when they were making it. This game falls short of other games like it, and it falls short of what Stardock said it would be. The differences mentioned in this game are no greater than the differences in Civilizat
[quote who="seanw3" reply="28" id="3270469"]Wait a minute. No finger has been given to the modding community. The game is massively moddable.[/quote] Massively moddable with the guarantee that almost every mod will be broken, with the requests modders have been making since I uninstalled WoM still ignored like practically everything that was in the Ideas thread. That avatar I'm using was taken when I had a mod better than the core game is now, I stopped playing when Stardock broke
[quote who="Kalin" reply="26" id="3270458"] Quoting Valentine82, reply 11 I have, all empires are nearly identical to one another, all kingdoms are nearly identical to one another, the differences are minor at best. At least in Total War similar kingdoms have different starting locations. Sure a single unit difference may exist late into the game, but that they're still practically identical. Wait, wait... are you really serious? Are you S
[quote who="stage62" reply="25" id="3270439"]I laughed when I saw the 'atheistic of play' link. Over focus on aesthetics creates poor games,[/quote] A game that's all asthetics does, a game that ignores the user end experience completely and focuses entirely on mechanics also does. Watch the video in the link, the guys at Extra Credits could help Stardock a lot if they'd watch their videos because they nail the things Stardock always has the most trouble with.
[quote who="seanw3" reply="19" id="3270397"]FE is a solid game. There is nothing drastically wrong with it. But I do think there is a crap ton that can be improved. The vanilla from my perspective has alot of features that were implemented with a half measure to provide ease of use for light users. Adding more depth complicates the game, but it also makes it more appealing to the hardcore users like myself. Factions are different, but not different enough. Tech trees are too interdependent an