It's just a very standard MMO right from the start, with the name tacked on. Also the fact that it's a huge cash grab should be a rather big warning sign for anyone who looks at it.

If you want to check it out, just wait 6 months after release and pick it up as a F2P title.

But I'm realistic. I'm 29 years old now. This type of game - I just don't have the free time any more. Who the fuck wants to spend 20 minutes of their life grinding identical mobs to fill up 1/20th of an experience bar? Which is why this game kind of irks me the wrong way, because TES always had great immersion even if the gameplay mechanics were shit. There was an experience there. But who is this TES online for? It's like what you get if you take Skyrim, and say "let's make the same game, but take away the fun, the graphics, the great lore, and the maturity, and add a subscription to it".

If you want an MMORPG just play WOW - it's still a ludicrously well-crafted game. If you want a TES game just play that instead. Or you can fork up 60 bucks for a dose of disappointment.

I cringe at the thought of all the wasted development dollars and time spent on Online that could've gone to 'The Elder Scrolls VI: Whatever Yada Yada'. We'll end up getting a lesser product because publishers and developers want money.

I'm no fan of MMOs, either.  I gave a couple a try -- namely, Anarchy Online and Star Trek Online.  Got bored quickly with AO, and quickly became disgusted with STO as well.

I have enjoyed the Elder Scrolls games ever since Morrowind.  I hope TESO won't mean an end to single player Elder Scrolls games, the way The Sims brought an effective end to the SimCity series (sorry to die hard fans, but SC5 is a pale imitation of its predecessors).

"Let's take this incredible game series, which is set apart from every other RPG by the incredible sense of immersive solitude it creates. Then let's make that game's audience play the next game with other people!"

-Someone at ZeniMax

I love, love love Elder Scrolls. But I think this is just the next Old Republic.

I believe that Elder Scrolls fans would play atleast the story while MMO fans will play it enough to see if it is competetive enough.

Myself, I don't want to spend $15 a month and I would only play an MMO if I had some good friends to play it with. I was willing to get into World of Warcraft but my friends had quitted by that time....

Well don't worry then, TESO's engine doesn't approach the quality of Skyrim's. That's another issue I have with MMO's: they typically dial back the graphics so the game can run on the most machines.

Moonpath to Elyswere is cool too.

SWTOR killed MMO's for me. Pretty much WoW in space. Yea we got "dialog" ohhhhh ahhhhhh, but game play was just a  WoW rinse n repeat. Same with Warhammer Online. WoW, but slightly (not by much) more "mature" content. All is just endless "Walkity walkity walk... Stabity stabity stab to level up... YAWN! Don't even get me started on Star Trek online.

The only 2 MMO's in existence that are worth a damn are WoW as much as i dislike it, but despite it not being the 1st MMO it was what got everyone interested in the whole MMO craze, and Eve Online, because it is a very DIFFERENT kind of MMO. Emphasis on DIFFERENT. However, Both are very old hat to me now. No matter how many "improvements", No matter how much "eye candy", or how much new content they add.

TESO IMO is pretty much "Same crap, Different name". Skyrim, Morrowind, and Oblivion at least had a GOOD quest system, and engaging story lines. I didnt feel like was was doing the same crap all of the time playing Skyrim. Fighting hordes of Stormcloaks, or Foresworn then all of a sudden a dragon drops in, and crashes your whole party. A few nice "Holy Crap!" moments tossed in the game.

I just can't see Elder Scrolls happening as an MMO. Bioware went the same route, and look what happened to them. Another EA puppet. I rest my case.

Obviously it will be made, but imagine if so much money hadn't been spent making the superfluous game :/

This was goddamn hilarious, really brightened up my day lol

Take your sarcasm and stick it. 

I just wanted to make sure that any TES fans reading this thread didn't assume that this WAS the next TES game.  There has been plenty of wrong complaints around the internet that the TES franchise was moving into the MMO world as its next stage instead of to another TES single player gem.  That's not happening and I wanted to make sure it was said somewhere in this thread so that no one read this and came away thinking a true TES VI was never going to be.  

That said:  

I really wish I had your insight into Zenimax's books.  I'm sure they bet the future of their company, whose success is almost entirely based on outstanding single player games, on an MMO.  That makes perfect sense.  TESO goes badly and the studio will be bankrupt.  Because they've shown themselves to be so bad at running a game company in the past.  I mean, the didn't even have the foresight to buy the Fallout franchise when it was languishing dead, bring it back to popularity and make millions off of it.  Right?  Right?  

By the way, the development on TESO started before the development on Skyrim according to the Wikipedia articles for each (TESO started during Fallout 3 development).  So the windfall they made off of Skyrim wasn't even a consideration when they embarked on an MMO.  That's gravy on top of it.  TESO could probably have no subscribers after the first month and Zenimax would survive in some fashion.  It's worth remembering that Skyrim alone saw $1.3 billion in revenue.  

Some large chunk of gamers consider TBS games superfluous, so why would we need yet another one in GalCiv3? Maybe we shouldn't pretend we can decide what's superfluous for everyone else huh?

I have no idea if this game will succeed or not.  I haven't had time for an MMO hardly at all since WoW WotLK time frame.  But let's not pretend we can make assumptions about the failure of one game being the end of TES games.  The history and success of Zenimax tells quite the opposite story.  Several hugely successful games under their belt and a history of smart business decisions both tell me that they're not going to bet their entire portfolio of studios on one game's success or failure.  

I don't really know. I just think making an Elder scrolls MMO is a bad idea, that it will tank, and that while ZeniMax and Bethesda will likely survive, I bet you it's going to hurt their financial position and clout (like BioWare). Who knows? Maybe they'll make billions, everyone will be happy, and I'll be a sore cranky-pants (similar to now).

But when you respond to the comment of another (mine) with the rebuking of  'an internet idea' that wasn't actually being perpetuated, you shouldn't be surprised if you get some sarcastic flak.