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Bebi Bulma
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Monitor doesn't power back on during reboots

June 12, 2007 5:50:25 AM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
I'm using an ATi Radeon 9600xt AGP 8x 256mb video card on Windows XP Pro SP2 on EPoX EP-8KRAIPRO Socket A (Socket 462) VIA KT880 ATX AMD Motherboard. Ever since I installed the card and mobo, when I reboot my monitor doesn't power back on (not just *this* monitor, my uncle's CRT didn't come back on either). I can't figure out why the monitor doesn't come back on, I have to do it manually. It will go into what I guess is sleep mode and just stays that way. I have to turn it off and turn it back on. The power settings in the desktop properties are all set to never.

Any ideas how to fix it so that it will just power itself back on?
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Bebi Bulma
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Reply #1 June 12, 2007 8:15:26 AM
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It would be in the bio and since you installed a new motherboard I would be looking into a flash for it. That and other forums that may contain other info about such a simular problem with that motherboard. May I ask where you bought the motherboard? They sometimes give really nice prices for stuff that has no support and fails to work correctly as you may have going on. But I would do a really good search for the flash update to the bio and other results as to what all else may be encountered with such.
I'll give this a better look when I get home from work this evening Bebi!

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Reply #2 June 12, 2007 8:22:21 AM
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Bought them both from newegg. Flashing the BIOS sounds scary...I just formatted my computer this weekend and my problems didn't get fixed, I'm not really looking forward to blowing up my mobo (I have an aura I tell you).
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Reply #3 June 12, 2007 10:11:47 AM
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Don't flash it. Boot into bios and set AGP to 4x (save and exit) and see if the monitor works.
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Reply #4 June 12, 2007 11:03:34 PM
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Don't flash it. Boot into bios and set AGP to 4x (save and exit) and see if the monitor works.


I went into the bios but I couldn't see anywhere to change it. The place where it said it was 8x was unselectable.
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Reply #5 June 12, 2007 11:42:02 PM
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I went into the bios but I couldn't see anywhere to change it. The place where it said it was 8x was unselectable.


That means you have the latest bios (they took the option out....don't have a clue why). Open the ATI control panel (display properties options) and use it to set it at 4. This board does not play nice with ATI. It should run at 8x w/o problems. That said, when you re-installed the OS, you installed the VIA chip drivers and then the ATI drivers..correct? Directx 9.0c installed?

when I reboot my monitor doesn't power back on (not just *this* monitor, my uncle's CRT didn't come back on either). I can't figure out why the monitor doesn't come back on, I have to do it manually.


How do you 'manually' turn it on. Is it just a blank screen or is it powered off? As odd as it might sound, if it's a blank screen try a different keyboard.

Still no joy, boot into bios and set to 'Default' (Optimized defaults preferably)
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Reply #6 June 13, 2007 12:08:47 AM
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That said, when you re-installed the OS, you installed the VIA chip drivers and then the ATI drivers..correct? Directx 9.0c installed?

Uhm, I did all the windows updates and it installed DirectX 9. The VIA drivers came with the windows updates, but then I did the ATi drivers, then decided to pop in the mobo cd and installed the 4-in-1 drivers.

I found the settings in the ATi control center and changed it down to 4x, but no change. Now I'm just having a slew of other problems (at startup something tries to open an Outlook .cfg file, then the system info dialog thing opens, and then an error that it can't read some NFO file). *sigh*

How do you 'manually' turn it on. Is it just a blank screen or is it powered off? As odd as it might sound, if it's a blank screen try a different keyboard.

The power button will go from green to orange, then I have to turn it off and turn it back on so I can see the bootup process.
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Reply #7 June 13, 2007 12:33:14 AM
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Those VIA drivers on the CD are undoubtedly ancient. Go to the VIA site and install the newest. The Windows update installed them and you reverted them back to the older version with the CD.

Now I'm just having a slew of other problems (at startup something tries to open an Outlook .cfg file, then the system info dialog thing opens, and then an error that it can't read some NFO file). *sigh*


That's your address book and combined with an NFO error indicates a virus/trojan. It could also be one of your security programs acting up. Some malware apps that run an active on-access program can cause all three problems.

Start/ Run/ type msconfig. See what, if anything, is in Startup that shouldn't be there.
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Reply #8 June 13, 2007 12:49:03 AM
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I'm running a virus scan right now (avg pro), and I check msconfig all the time, nothing that shouldn't be there.
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Reply #9 June 13, 2007 1:11:22 AM
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If AVG scan finds nothing (I'm guessing it won't), boot into the bios and make sure 'Power Savings, APM, or Advanced Power Management' is disabled and 'APIC Interrupt Routing' is enabled.
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Reply #10 June 13, 2007 1:57:02 AM
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i had exactly the same problem a couple years ago when i bought the monitor i'm currently using. at first i thought it was the monitor (it was used but such a good deal i couldn't pass it by). then one day i swapped video cards and it hasn't happened since.

i don't recall who made the vid card...only that it was an early agp version.
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Reply #11 June 13, 2007 2:37:37 AM
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well technically VIA chipsets are total shit any way..when buying a motherboard make sure the chipset is ether a Intel,amd or nforce (nvidia).when i had a 6800 ultra i had a asus motherboard that had a VIA chipset the first second i installed the via 4 in 1 drivers everything went to hell all me games and stuff would totally lock up on me but as soon as i uninstalled the drivers everything went back to normal.also you may want to take the vid card to get checked out, it might be something defective with the card it self.you may also want to do the same for the motherboard.flashing a BIOS isn't as bad as it seems I've done it thousands of times, just make sure you follow the manufactures procedure and you'll be fine.plus when buying a motherboard always go for the best known name brands like Intel,abit (i would say abit being the best of the best..i had a IC7-G...kick ass board too),asus,tyan ETC.
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Reply #12 June 13, 2007 2:47:19 AM
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Actually, I think it might have been doing it with this card before I replaced the mobo, but I can't be certain.

Anyway, I did a system restore and got rid of the .cfg and NFO thing at startup.

As for the monitor powering on stuff...no joy. I couldn't find those settings in the BIOS, this was the closest I found (bold being the current settings).

Power Management:

ACPI Suspend type: S1(POS), S3((STR), S1&S3
Video off: Suspend -> off, Always on
Video off method: V/H Sync+Blank, DPMS support, blank screen
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Reply #13 June 13, 2007 2:49:10 AM
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well you can try this, in your BIOS there is usually an option to set the default settings, you can try setting the default settings and see if that helps any..the default settings will put the motherboard back to the manufactures settings.you could also reset the entire bios by shutting down the system and unplugging it, open the case and set the BIOS jump to pins 2 and 3 wait 10 seconds and make sure you do not power the system on, doing so will fry the bios after 10 seconds put the jumper back to pins 1 and 2 which is the normal operation then plug the system in and power it back on. setting the jumpers to pins 2 and 3 will do a total reset (this will do nothing but set everything back to the way the manufacture had the bios set up)
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Reply #14 June 13, 2007 2:55:16 AM
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Honestly I think the only thing I've ever really changed in the bios was the boot order (changing to cd-rom for formatting/reinstalling windows, etc).
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Reply #15 June 13, 2007 3:00:13 AM
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ok frankly that wouldn't make the monitor not power back on...i would take the vid card to your nearest computer repair center and have them do a diagnostic on the card..it sounds like the card might be defective..
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Reply #16 June 13, 2007 8:27:07 AM
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Personally....I'd be waiting for more suggestions from yrag.....

Any minute now he will say....

"Hey Bebi...give that computer back to Jafo....he's obviously had it at one time...and now it'll never be right again".

Seriously....he's probably blowing up another machine to replicate your problem...so as to solve it....

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Reply #17 June 13, 2007 8:29:09 AM
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BTW....I have that exact same graphic card....

Spooky, what?....

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Reply #18 June 13, 2007 10:59:45 AM
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I have that exact same graphic card





Video off method: V/H Sync+Blank, DPMS support, blank screen


Set to DPMS.
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Reply #19 June 13, 2007 11:45:19 AM
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BTW....I have that exact same graphic card....

Spooky, what?...


And jafo faded away in IRC...screen was getting smaller as he typed was able to type but had black screen...hope he is up & running soon & that it is not a hint of things to come Bebi

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Reply #20 June 14, 2007 10:39:06 PM
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Video off method: V/H Sync+Blank, DPMS support, blank screen


Set to DPMS.

Did that...no joy. My problems just won't go away. I just installed the software for my new LifeCam and a while later my pc just rebooted again (not sure if it's related), but there was no error report when it came back on. And what do you know? That damn .cfg and NFO crap was back again! Not only that but the hidden tray icon settings that I had setup seem to have been wiped out, so I did yet another restore and we'll see how long it lasts this time til something borks again.
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Reply #21 June 14, 2007 11:16:39 PM
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what's the full name of the nfo file? where is it located? (try runnin a search for *.nfo if you're unable to locate it any other way.) when you find it browse there with windows explorer, select and right click on it so you can open it with notepad. if what you see makes no sense to you, copy the entire thing and paste it here.

do you have another vid card available?
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Reply #22 June 14, 2007 11:25:10 PM
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I'm starting to smell a PSU going bad........
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Reply #23 June 14, 2007 11:25:19 PM
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I just installed the software for my new LifeCam


Thought you were allergic to cam's Steph? or was it just MSN?  

anyway, sorry to read this thread, sounds like one of those probs might just put you in the looney bin    Hope you get it resolved soon.
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Reply #24 June 15, 2007 12:16:44 AM
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The NFO error doesn't say anything other than "This NFO file cannot be opened blah blah" and that's after the System Info dialog pops up. Don't have a clue what is trying to open the file, or what the file is. Same thing with the .cfg file notice.

At this point I'm not too worried with the monitor not coming back on, it's just an annoyance (unless there actually *is* something worse going on). It's these stop error reboots and other issues that are getting to me.

Once I start getting some income I plan to do a full system upgrade and replace all this hardware, but that won't be an option for a while yet. *sigh*
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Reply #25 June 15, 2007 12:36:21 AM
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Run this and let me know if you get errors: WWW Link (free download on left)
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