[quote who="GeomanNL" reply="1444" id="3423921"] It's december already ... perhaps it's time to make predictions for the new year! I predict a winter that is warmer than average in the Netherlands Maybe 1 month with some snow and mild frost. I also predict that next summer will be ranked in the top 10 of warmest summers on record. I also predict that the CO2 content of the atmosphere will rise by about 2.5 ppm.<b
[quote who="Bellack" reply="92" id="3423804"] I'm all for a RPG remake of BG and am for Multiplayer in GS3.[/quote] Do you mean an actual direct remake of Baldur's Gate? Because that's been done recently. Both 1 and 2 and their expansion packs. http://www.baldursgate.com/
[quote who="GeomanNL" reply="1415" id="3423282"] Well... what can I say, some people are just playing stubborn. [/quote] Except you, right? You're being emminently reasonable and logical. [quote who="GeomanNL" reply="1419" id="3423303"] Yeah whatever. I think it's up to the next generation, this one is too much in the grip of power money and the desire for luxury. I'm enjoying this life too while I can.
Happy Thanksgiving all. Everyone enjoy it and do my wife a favor and root against the Ravens tonight! [e digicons]O:)[/e]
[quote who="Turchany" reply="1349" id="3422403"] Where did I say that money should disappear? I only said that money should not be the new god of mankind, and I have severe doubts about the rightness of capitalism and that pure capitalism will save the world. [/quote] I'm done with you. You're either purposefully misrepresenting what I'm saying, you fail at reading comprehension or I simply lack the linguistic skills to get my
[quote who="Turchany" reply="1333" id="3422267"] Ha ha, that's funny. You still don't understand that the way we live today, is not sustainable. We cannot destroy rainforests, poison air and water and soil, destroy thousands of species without severe consequencies. We are producing so much unnatural substances we are soon going to drown in it. Things MUST BE CHANGED. And the more we wait, changes need to be more drastical. BTW I hope
[quote who="GeomanNL" reply="1329" id="3422253"] Yes I didn't say it would be easy. But that's beside the point. It's possible and it's realizable. It doesn't have to happen instantly. There can be a timetable, for example one of 50 years where changes are made gradually. It won't even have to cost too much if it's done in a coordinated manner. The only thing in the way here, is national pride and politicians... oh a
[quote who="Borg999" reply="112" id="3422245"] Good points, but why in the world would a private sector business with a reputation on the line with such a high profile project allow a broken system to be released without raising a stink. It seems a little strange that they didn't publically raise the red flag about "inadequate testing" untill after the fallout. Sound more like reactive CYA. [/quote] Because they're part of the corrupt process. Of course it was
[quote who="Turchany" reply="1322" id="3422235"] Introducing environment-friendly things that do not need extreme amount of historic stored Sun power to be used constantly (coal, oil, gas etc) and to use things that are not unlimited.. And poison the atmosphere.. But do you think environment friendly things are that bad for us (like sun, wind or fusion power)? Do you really think we should continue the current level of coa
[quote who="Daiwa" reply="1319" id="3422229"] I don't have to 'demonstrate' or 'prove' anything to anyone, regardless of the number of brain cells they possess. 'Denialists' aren't trying force anyone to do squat. The burden of proof is on AGW advocates and, as a member of the 'jury' in this analogy, I get to decide whether that burden has been met. And I don't find ad hominems, condescension and pejorative labeling to be part
[quote who="smeagolheart" reply="109" id="3422182"] Capitalism is out of control when it comes to healthcare because it's a monopoly. [/quote] If you believe that capitalism is really at play in the American healthcare system, either before or after Obamacare you either don't understand capitalism or you don't understand the American healthcare system. Capitalism isn't the reason healthcare costs what it does. The prevention of cap
[quote who="myfist0" reply="1317" id="3422195"] I found this a good read for anyone that will bother to read past the 1st line and not go into a tirade. http://www.nature.com/news/2010/101101/full/news.2010.577.html [/quote] Good read. The science points at a possible conclusion (that AGW is in fact true), but there is lot of uncertainty around the data and even more around the p
[quote who="Jafo" reply="103" id="3421933"] The US isn't even willing to provide general health care for their OWN people.....they ain't going to do it for countries they can't find on a map. [/quote] My what a big strawman you have there, grandpa. The "US" doesn't decide to give its people anything or not. The people decide what they want. The reason there is no single payer or socialized medicine system in the US is because PEOPLE
[quote who="caseagainstfaith" reply="1288" id="3421908"] I have avoided this thread, because, well, it is so frustrating to deal with denialists. But, FYI, there is a difference between "weather" and "climate". Weather deals with immediate weather conditions. "Climate" deals with weather pattern over time. The fact that immediate weather is not as predictable as we like does not mean that statistical modeling over time is useless. And, sure, it is certainly
[quote who="Turchany" reply="100" id="3421905"] It is the only example I guess But they did have a rich ancient culture by the way.. [/quote] Japan is the 3rd largest economy in the world. 4th if you count the EU as one economy. They are amongst the highest in both quality of life and length of life. That's a hell of an exception to your supposed rule.
[quote who="Turchany" reply="100" id="3421905"] where economy and society would both be important, and people would not have this money religion, and actually care about others. [/quote] This is a complete straw man. You pretend that they're mutually exclusive so that you can knock down the theory you don't like. In capitalism the economy serve s society in the sense that society is better off because quality
[quote who="Daiwa" reply="1284" id="3421867"] As opposed to "Because Mann"?[/quote] I prefer: "Because Gore". Weak double entendre and all.
[quote who="Turchany" reply="96" id="3421858"] There are positive examples, but only a few.. most countries and nations suffer from capitalism, as they cannot really enjoy the positive side of it.. And Capitalism is interested in making the differences stationary (most colonies are still colonies, just economically..), just take this example: Burundi is not likely to be a rich country within a thousand years.. And same goes for many African states without oil. Do you really think capital
[quote who="Nichtganz" reply="97" id="3421859"] Quoting Kantok, reply 95 Quoting Turchany, reply 93 It's like democracy, many know it is not the best, but there is no better choice currently. By definition if there are no better choices, then the one you have made is the best. He meant in the present. By that logic Slavery could be easily justified.[/quote] No, it couldn't.
[quote who="GeomanNL" reply="1276" id="3421837"] It's possible to predict storms pretty well a few days into the future. I think the models are pretty awesome. [/quote] [quote who="GeomanNL" reply="1279" id="3421843"] And what does it really matter if the models are a bit off. Who gives a damn about the details, they're just not important for such a study. [/quote] Wildly alter the global economy and concentrate authorit
[quote who="GeomanNL" reply="1276" id="3421837"] Someone sets an arbitrary target, like, let's not let levels of CO2 increase to more than 500 ppm, to avoid too much melting of the ice sheets and too much rise of sea level. At a rate of increase of 2 ppm/year, that gives us 50 years to solve the problem. [/quote] [quote] It's possible to predict storms pretty well a few days into the future. I think the models are pretty awesome. [/qu
[quote who="GeomanNL" reply="1273" id="3421831"] You misunderstand... the climate models CAN simulate realistic storm systems. [/quote] No, you misunderstand. It is our inability to predict when storm systems will happen and what will cause them that is my chief concern. If we don't know the climate system well enough to make those predictions how can we predict effects of CO2 on the global system over a hundred year time span. The only way that h
[quote who="Ekko_Tek" reply="1269" id="3421707"] So essentially, your main point then was just an assumption about other people's thinking while complaining that people are making assumptions of you? Kantok, mentioning emotions and politics is not me being petty. It's unfortunately a hugely significant and interfering factor in people being able to understand these issues - because they are unable to leave their baggage at the door and look at things clearly. I meant i
[quote who="GeomanNL" reply="1271" id="3421733"] Quoting Kantok, reply 1268You're telling me that inability to accurately and reliably predict the behavior of a subset of the global climate system in the short term doesn't imply anything about the reliability of those same people to predict the behavior of the entire system over the long term? Yes, those are 2 different things. The long term trend doesn't have to deal with short-term effects, whi
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