I accidentally hit 'enter' while commenting and the quest was submitted before I was done explaining what it was. And as long as I'm here, what is convincing someone to pre-order worth? Or buying the game for a friend as a gift?
Companies who truly believe they have a good product are smart to enlist customers to spread the word. Companies who don't tend to try to keep control over their product's buzz, as things like this army will bite will in the butt when customers realize the game isn't up to snuff. SD is the former, obviously.
[quote who="Anomander" reply="27" id="2642554"]...Perhaps its just your playing style. Stats, Resource and Build...but beyond that what weaves a world into Elemental gameplay? What makes you care for your NPCs rather than "Damn, Mr 2 Spell points was killed by MR 40 Attack?"... [/quote]I look at games like this as blank slates rpg-wise that we fill in ourselves, to the extent we wish it to exist. The devs can provide the framework (like npc backstories, personalities, etc.) but whether
[quote who="Xolat" reply="34" id="2642482"]I keep making accounts because you are so sneaky and nasty that you don't outright ban me(for what I have no idea) but you make it so that nobody sees anything I post except for me[/quote]lol That's sneaky. I like it. [quote]Anyway, I won't be coming on this form anymore, you disgust me.[/quote]To quote the old Country song -- "How can we miss you if you won't go away?"
[quote who="Saije" reply="48" id="2641745"]...If a Moderator sees this I would appreciate it if you'd Ban this Account. That will have to due as an apology to DarkKnight and the others.[/quote]No need to lose this account IMO, that would be a shame. Stick around and we all might learn something. Mistakes are a learning opportunity, and no one is so wise they can't improve themselves. <span style="font
[quote who="Saije" reply="19" id="2641412"]Morality is an outdated sentiment born in the minds of those who possess no real power.[/quote]There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Hamlet Act 1, scene 5, 186–187
[quote who="_PawelS_" reply="13" id="2640977"]Yeah, reading red text on black background hurts my eyes [/quote]Mine too. I have to highlight it (so it's blue on white) to read it. Maybe it's just my old eyes...
[quote who="vieuxchat" reply="113" id="2640929"]Diplomacy should let you hurt your enemies, and hurt them hard, because that's not real life diplomacy.[/quote]For diplomacy in elemental, how about: -the chance to delay a Sov from attacking you -chance to have a Sov attack someone else, not you -chance to end a war before it otherwise would -chance to reduce the penalty from attacking the friend of a Sov (ie - you attack Sov A, Sov B is a friend of Sov A and so
[quote who="zalesak" reply="28" id="2641194"]in the final game, will there be something like AI Arena? So that those of us nerds could start an AI League? "In the red corner, we have the Noob AI v1.5, weighth 250kb! And it the blue corner, the so far champion of the league AProI v2.1 weigth 400kb! Lets get ready to rumble!" Would be awesome.... Edit1: PS: LOL, just noticed there are other posts suggesting this, i support![/quote] To quot
[quote who="Raven X" reply="109" id="2640692"] [quote]I guess it will depends about the height of the mountain: if it is too tall (think Everest), there won't be enough air available to allow the dragon to fly[/quote][quote]Don't make me bash you with large heavy objects, it hurts[/quote][/quote]Hurts as much as a dragon flying smack into a granite cliff face? ;)
[quote who="Maxpower179" reply="9" id="2640558"]Use the Civ IV approach to avoid the mini-map player advantage (in that game you can't tell where you are on the mini-map relative to the edge until you discover some tech, astronomy I think).[/quote]You can tell which way is north/south in Civ4 if you can see tundra/ice or the forest transition from hardwoods to conifers -- that sort of thing should be 'legal' for the AI to use. On the other hand you can tell which direction the equator i
[quote who="Frogboy" reply="70" id="2640401"]Spending 3 months on "polishing" or "balance" would be, literally, insane[/quote]That's interesting. As a non-developer and industry outsider I thought a month or so with the ~final game, plus beta feedback, would be a reasonable minimum, and 3 months would not be literally insane. Learn something new everyday... Sometimes I feel I'm benefiting more from being in beta than you folks are for me being in beta ;)
[quote who="aeortar" reply="56" id="2639951"][quote]"The game doesn't change if the name changes"[/quote][quote] Again, fallacious argument Strawman[/quote] They're not strawmen, since that's exactly what he said - if the game had been called something else, he "would have had no issues with it and probably would of purchased [it]". To me that suggests that had the name been something else he wouldn't have disliked it. Issues with false expectations/marketing wouldn't affect the quality
[quote who="SpardaSon21" reply="13" id="2639483"] Even successful game developers have trouble with Activision -- ask the ex-Infinity Ward (Company of Heroes) folks. Better edit that, Infinity Ward did Call of Duty, Company of Heroes was a Relic game.[/quote]Oops... Thanks for the correction! :)
[quote who="Spooky__" reply="78" id="2639502"] [quote]On this topic what I'd like is what we've had for years -- the ability to set up our own LAN and direct IP connections, without being forced to use a third party like steam/etc.[/quote]But there is the problem, at least for Supreme Commander. Using in-house mechanisms was always troublesome in the past and it's generally more expensive to create your own solution instead of using existing solutions.[/quote]Regarding 'troublesome':
[quote who="Spooky__" reply="42" id="2639517"]@Nick-Danger: I only said "seemingly", I didn't say it was a fact that he likes the game.[/quote]That's a too much of a stretch, unsupported by his statements, as my previous posts argue. [quote]It would be just incredibly surreal, if he enjoyed the game once he plays it, but can't, simply because it's called "Supreme Commander 2" and not "Generic Strategy Game 2".[/quote]Again, fallacious argument Strawman, as that's not "simply" why he d
[quote who="humorguy" reply="8" id="2638965"]...But how would low budget, great games get made unless we have schemes like this?![/quote]The same way they've always been made -- which can arguably be easier now with the net and it's attendant opportunities like DD for distribution, social media for cheap advertising and word-of-mouth, etc. Consider music and how the net is facilitating independent musicians to bypass the big labels. Same with games. Read the thread on Ac
[quote who="Spooky__" reply="38" id="2639387"]Nick-Danger: no that part of my reply was in regards to what Teseer said here: Quoting OMG_Teseer, reply 17If they called it 'Generic Strategy Game 2' I would of had no issues with it and probably would of purchased. He was saying, that if the game had a different name, he would have bought (thus meaning that he apparently liked it, otherwise he wouldn't think of buying it in the first place, I assume).[/quote]No, for 2 reaso
[quote who="Spooky__" reply="76" id="2639350"]...since you are talking about options, do you want the developers to implement all kinds of matchmaking servers, just for the sake of options?.[/quote]On this topic what I'd like is what we've had for years -- the ability to set up our own LAN and direct IP connections, without being forced to use a third party like steam/etc. The ability to have one player host, or use our own server to host (many of us have guilds that have servers or ren
It's refreshing to see devs being honest about the realities of publishing. Too many have shipped obviously unfinished products then obfuscated as to why they did so, when it was pretty obvious why (ran out of money, had to meet deadlines imposed by publishers or by marketing reasons such as reserved shelf space, etc.). A little honesty goes a long way (with adults anyways -- there'll always be some who will still complain). Given the choices of August or Feb, and that I
[quote who="Spooky__" reply="28" id="2639126"]...The game doesn't change if the name changes....[/quote]This is the fallacious argument Strawman -- no one said the game changes because the name changes. What they're saying is that the game was advertised as a sequel and in their opinion really wasn't -- false advertising, unmet expectations, playing falsely on name brand recognition, etc. [quote]Not buying the game simply because it's not named something else...[/quote]This is a
[quote who="Spooky__" reply="73" id="2638625"]@Nick-Danger: it is or can still be in the player's interest, due to how well SteamWorks works for the game.[/quote]It's not in my best interest to play a game that is 'steam only' because: -I don't want unnecessary third party software running in the background to play a single-player offline game -I don't want steam collecting info on me, including unspecified personally identifiable info -I don't need steam to find me MP
[quote who="Spooky__" reply="69" id="2638564"]Ah, I see now. The reason is, that they use SteamWorks. I think that's where the misunderstanding is.[/quote]Yep, we were talking apples&oranges. I'm focusing on the steam _only_ part because I do know about steamworks (well, as much as is reasonably discoverable to us civilians -- for example their API Overview ) ie as you say here: [quote]...that if a game us
[quote who="Spooky__" reply="67" id="2638550"]I still don't understand what you are getting at. Maybe there is a general misunderstanding here.[/quote]Maybe you are trying to make this too complicated, or too simple... Syneptus didn't ask 'why steam' he asked 'why steam only'. Your answer doesn't address why steam _only_. It answers 'why steam' but he didn't ask that. Reasons might include GPG being made an offer they couldn't refuse, Valve taking a smaller cut t
Given that it's unlikely (ok -- impossible) they'll release Elemental unless the balance is 'good enough' (I say 'good enough' as balance is relative not absolute and it'll never be 'perfect'), that they're talking about a late August release tells me their internal playtesting is showing decent balance currently, and that they're fairly content with the current content (features/systems/etc.). Beta 2 will show us much (but not all) of what they currently have, so we'll soon see.