[quote who="Windexglow" reply="16" id="2170320"]Wc3 melee games are hosted upon servers, which players connect to. In custom games, all players connect to a single server(the host), in which the host sends information to all the other players. Player(2) and player(3) don't communicate directly I believe. If the host goes down, than the game searches for a new one. If it can't find one, than the game ends.[/quote]Source?
liq3
Ok, whenever I try to use the ingame chat, I get a "closing link: liq3 (my_ip) (excess flood)" message (not exact, but close). Help would be appreciated.
[quote who="Balthagor" reply="7" id="2170059"]I'd be more intersted in a hotkey to make all units except my DG invisible for a moment. Especially when I'm playing a 3v3 with one teammate and two opponenets playing the same DG as me, I can't find myself sometimes...[/quote]You're the DG with the blue circle around it's base.
Well, people make hateful remakes, not the quitters. Yeh, I can understand feeders... Though it's kinda funny when a whole team feeds. lol. I just find the amount of gold you get atm fine. I usually die at most 5 times in a game, and that's pretty terrible play for me (or someone else fed the enemy...). My average deaths per game is probably around 2, which is about 2000 gold, so you can see why I don't find the amount you get a problem.
[quote who="Teseer" reply="18" id="2168164"] If one person on the team makes a few bad choices early on and dies say...4 times before level 8 to one person, that person will be much more powerful (obviously)..[/quote]FOUR DEATHS BEFORE LEVEL EIGHT?! o.O Anyone who dies even FOUR times in an entire GAME, without having a 1:1 kill:death ratio or better, was making mistakes. The winner of an RTS game is usually "he who makes less mistakes". Also kill aren't everything.
[quote who="innociv" reply="16" id="2168590"] Quoting liq3, reply 9 They got 26,000 gold how exactly? Ashkandor's price alone is enough to upgrade priests, angels, catas and giants all at once. Um.. It's irrelevant. These are the predominant items. Next after you have those you'd probably get bracelet of rage. Then you're doing like 1500DPS with, when hammer slam is much less DPS than that in melee range and it's easy to avoid while autoattacks hit
[quote who="Heritor" reply="18" id="2168694"]Um... I would say in a Straight up starting from lvl 1 game its hard to see what Demigods are Imbal. However, once all the Demigods hit lvl 20 Unclean Beast can pretty much three shot The Rook no matter how much gear you put on him.[/quote]What? You're talking 2,500 damage a hit after armour. That's like 5000 base damage. Goodluck getting that mate! Even spit is silly. You only need 7k hp and you'll survive 4 spits. Get Bu
[quote who="innociv" reply="21" id="2167729"] Anyways. Using skills should be the predominant way to play. Sitting there and auto attacking takes much less skill. You get mageslayer and ashkandor on regulas and it can be pretty gg with that huge +dmg, crit, and ias to proc crit more and add more dps from the stacked ias not to mention their other bonuses.[/quote]They got 26,000 gold how exactly? Ashkandor's price alone is enough to upgrade priests, ange
[quote who="AngryZealot" reply="1" id="2167953"]You are right. Currently they stack as in 2 * 4 = 8x damage. It should do 5x damage. (Not 6x, because 6x would count the base damage twice.)[/quote]I see your reasoning, although it makes crit stacking pointless, and changes the crits to static 10% and 30% damage boosts. The way it works now, having both crit items gives you an extra 3% damage boost. Hardly significant.
Everyone DG is overpowered and underpowered depending on who you ask.
Doesn't change the fact I had 5000hp and 2500 armour with TB. :/
[quote who="Red Arremer" reply="7" id="2167018"]I prefer to ignore towers of light and focus on spamming hammer on creep waves to gain an experience advantage.[/quote]With towers you can sit around at level 5 spamming them non-stop (ok not non-stop, but it's easy to maintain 3-4). These towers will own any creeps that get close. :/
[quote who="transitive" reply="12" id="2167658"]its easy to under-estimate the Torch because he dies so easily. you really can't lead an attack on your own as TB, its just a recipe for getting a quick death. on the other hand if you're working with someone kinda tanky who can either help keep you alive or help keep enemies controlled you get to seriously abuse the massive AoE and burst damage potential of Torch's numerous damage spells. you will, however, su
Here's some counters... Tower Spamming Rook - Take out his towers and his screwed, or distract them with creeps and kill him quickly. Erebus with minions is extremely annoying when playing this build, since his minions absorb all the tower fire, allowing Erebus to walk in and attack. The only other real option is to overwhelm Rook with several DGs at once.
Here's an idea. Wait until he uses the stun, THEN teleport away while it's on cooldown.
[quote who="WNxOdin" reply="5" id="2166496"]I tend to play Rook in a similar fashion but instead of getting armor early on I invest in the gold upgrades at Cit and save for Bulwark of Ages and Belt of Giants, the cleave ability makes Rook dominate the creep/minions.[/quote]Well a point in God's Strength gives him a splash knockback on small units. That or he gets it some other way. Don't much like Rook for killing creeps tho, other chars are much better at it. QoT, Torchbearer,
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[quote who="The_Regicide" reply="9" id="2166179"]Reg, UB and TB are better assassins for crowd control. It may seem the Rook does it more economically, but his cheap approach bites him hard in the ass when catapultosauri come strolling in.[/quote]He's the best at holding the line against enemy DGs. I fended off an Oak 4 times with Rook once, before having to retreat due to mana loss.
[quote who="Deepjay" reply="3" id="2164220"]Hang on, what's the deal with favour items? How are you LOSING items? I thought you just earned favour points which you then used to be able to buy favour items ONE per round in each game? Can you actually get items and keep them through it or what? i don't get it.. *edit - dont get it as until present have barely ever been able to actually get into a pantheon game with humans.[/quote]Once you buy a favor item, you get i
If you play Pantheon you'll lose all your favor items and points. I avoided it for a week, then decided to play it today, and lost 5000 favor worth of items. I'm not even going to touch Pantheon now until favor is fixed. So, you have been warned.
Starting out? Depends on what DG I'm playing and what DGs I'm against. Every DG can sit around there tower and just leech exp from the creeps. You don't have to actually kill the creeps to get exp. Early on towers do 200 damage a shot, so no one will dare go near them. If the enemy is killing your creeps, just hang around tower, and it'll kill the enemy creeps and you get exp.
That's the thing, unlike Regulus you can skip his normal attacks. It's very viable to just buff TB up with +mana regen and +hp/armour items, completely skipping +damage items.
[quote who="Teseer" reply="11" id="2163154"] Quoting innociv, reply 10 Aye. They might of overnerfed him SLIGHTLY. All I think he needs is +100 more base armor(it was reduced 200). But he's not like unplayably bad or anything. Thank you! ~8% dmg reduction is totally not Rookish![/quote]It's not 8%. It's a static 1% hp bonus per 25 armour. He's losing 152ehp, which is like 1 attack. Also, him gaining +100 armour is like half an attack (76ehp
Torchbearer is meh? Tell that to the Erebus I played the other day who I repeatedly killed. Same goes for Rook being "meh". Tell it to the people who find I've taken one of their portals (and destroyed 4+ towers in the process) at level 8. After that they probably thought Rook is OP. Sedna terrible? Pair her up with a high DPS char (Torchbearer, Regulus, UB) and all of a sudden she's terribly dangerous, since you'll have immense trouble surviving long enough to kil
[quote who="UhelligGudn" reply="12" id="2161908"] It seems apparent from this that if you are against primarily melee heroes, it is best to go with Armor as it gives you a significant boost against melee damage. .[/quote]This isn't quite true. e.g. (ehp = hp including armour reduction) There's 2 armours you can buy. One gives 500hp and 750 armour, the other gives 1050 armour. Lets say you have 4000hp and 1000 armour. The 1050a one will give you +1680ehp. Now, the