Lula- I don't completely agree with your perspective but I believe, though not in the same paragraph, we are on the same page. I have enjoyed your commments JOA
Joan of Arc
[quote]The idea that homosexuality is an inborn trait is debunked further and rather conclusively by the existence of hundreds of thousands of men and women who have successfully changed their sexualpreference and left the homosexual lifestyle.[/quote] many overcome all kinds of things but they always need the following: acceptance support compassion time this is a good place to start joa
[quote]The preponderance of evidence is on the side that it's not genetic. Researchers, clinicians, and psychologists think it's learned behavior and evidence for this comes from many sources. Many doctors believe that homosexuality arises from various environmental factors. Adverse situations in a child's life that can lead to homosexual temptations are peer rejections, homosexual molestation, same sex experimentation, exposure to homosexual pornography, etc.[/quote] Let's say this i
[quote]Anyway, socialism is the tempering process that makes capitalism stronger. The US hasn't got much to lose by moderating capitalist excesses a little.[/quote] hadn't quite thought of it like that. interesting, i think i agree with you joa
[quote]What Joe "issue"? Is Joe running for office or something? There is no Joe "issue". The issue is Obama's answer to the question. Obama has stated that he believes that the government's role is to "spread the wealth".[/quote] not rocket science, but well said. joa
[quote]Excuse me, but I think you have misunderstood my point or have me mixed up with someone else...[/quote] thanks for clarifying, my mistake joa
I don't know Dr, this stuggle is in our town, at our church (and boy is it a struggle there), at the school, it seems to be everywhere. AND, people are down right nasty and seem to feel justified in being so. It's bizarre! joa
[quote]When Jesus repealed the "old law", did he exempt homosexuality?[/quote] probably not because Jesus did uphold the institution of traditional (one man one woman) marriage joa
[quote]Unless a rape occurs, everyone chooses whether or not to engage in sexual activity. [/quote] excuse me, let me rephrase, ask your gay friends when they chose their orientation
[quote]Check into the criteria for the civil rights laws that have been passed. You'll find they concerned a person's immutable characteristics like skin color, age, gender, ethnicity....one doesn't have these one day and not the next...they are all innate characteristics that cannot be changed.....[/quote] this an "up for grabs" issue. perhap we need to settle the argument regarding the "gay" factor. is it biological, psychological, physiological, or enviromental. w
[quote]Since when is the practice of homosexuality ( a sexual behavior which one chooses to engage in or not) a civil issue?[/ quote] you're not doing your homework lula----check with your gay friends and ask them when they chose to engage in homosexual behavior.
[quote]I am leaving for my mountain refuge.[/quote] be well joa
[quote]Right..Obama was in Joe's neighborhood cadging votes and happened upon Joe Wurzlelbacher who asked Obama about his tax plan and why he (Joe) should be "taxed more and more for fulfilling the American dream"?[/quote] well mr. lulapilgrim, if your insinuation is that it was all staged, i'm throwing in the towel completely. I am so sick and tired of the lack of integrity within this country I want to vomit. If we have come to the point where in order to find truth we ne
all i can say after reading this discussion is has it come to this? JOA
[quote]My only point in bringing this whole thing up is that McCain made such a deal out of the average Joe the plumber as a prototypical hero of the potentially upwardly mobile middle class in the debate, yet the man misrepresents himself as a plumber (ask any bonafide plumber who has apprenticed, paid his dues, and obtained his masters license) and is (in fact) a person who does not pay at least some of his taxes...something I hear conservatives all the time whining about. [/quote]
[quote]It is not a smear to report the facts. It is a smear to distort them, overblow them, or misrepresent them. This article does none of that.[/quote] Not quite right. To smear (according to the dictionary) is to bring into disrepute, tarnish, discredit, or disgrace. I believe the communication of this particular information at this particular time does in fact constitute what would be considered, according to the dictionary, a smear joa
The matress police? I thought everone knew about them. They are the one's who come after you if you take the big floppy tag off your matress that says 'Do Not Remove Under Penalty of Law. [e digicons]8C[/e] I have never actually seen them as I am a good, law abiding citizen [e digicons]O:)[/e] but I Know they are out there. Joa
[quote]Now for the more controversial part: I have always felt that marriage is a religious institution as well as a civil one. The civil and legal rights given through marriage (rights of survivorship, health benefits, etc.) are very important to uphold. I have always been supportive of same-sex benefits as far as the workplace goes. But I ascribe a lot of religious significance to the word "marriage" and seeing as how active homosexual relationships are against my religion I can't in good c
Honestly---who cares, can't someone be mentioned "in the news" without someone else looking to immediately discredit him. Joe never claimed to be a saint, model or anything else. He's just an average guy who happened to ask a campaigning individual a question. Thanks so much for the info----you and the matress police! joa
In a recent blog conversation someone stated “This country is almost too divided to be saved at this point”. I found this sentiment alarming. It’s been many years since we have seen war on our own soil so I suppose it is not a surprise that we have forgotten the lessons learned in our own Revolutionary and Civil Wars. Through these wars we increased our independence and freedom and historically, we have pulled together, given sacrificially and laid down our very li
like I said, Have it Your Way America- joa
like I said, Have it Your Way America- joa
[quote]It has been that way since the founding of the country. Look at things like the first Supreme Court case, or even just the politics to sign the Declaration of Independence. We haven changed in the big picture mate, just in what we argue about.[/quote I find this interesting because sometimes, when I hear about the foundations of America, I get the idea that everyone was in total agreement about everything. Historically, I find this to be inaccurate. Regardless of the our
[quote]Why no liberal comments either yay or nay? [/quote] an excellant Q Nitro, I don't know. i am sure that there are folks on both sides of the isle that share these sentiments or for whom they raise conserns. it would be nice to hear from all even if they just plain disagree. joa
[quote who="Dr Guy" comment="12"]As long as you happen to agree with them all rulers are benevolent.Very true! I was thinking of myself as the benevolent ruler. [/quote] uh oh--now we're in trouble joa