E-Sword

Has anybody found an effective use for the Elementium Karrazan sword? I don't recall the 12K price-tag. In previous versions it was 1200 which I thought high for what it actually did. Maybe I'm expecting a cross between Excalibur & a light saber? I don't remember the last time I had 12K to blow in this game. If I did, I would presumably be powerful enough at that point to win the game without that sword.

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 Never could afford to buy one at 12k but I see Resoln guys toting them all the time; thus they are a priority target in combat.

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Sometimes it does some kind of special damage, it occasionally hits one of my summoned guys and does like 40 points of damage & seems to inflect some kind of spell. Of course there is no description of this in the manual, so I have no idea what it is actually or what the chance is of it doing its special damage, it seems to have a small percentage chance, like critical hit, of happening. I typically make them a priority target for my archers.

I don't think anything is worth 12k in this game except squads. The squad cost of that sword might be cheaper, I havent checked.

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Quoting cpl_rk, reply 2
Sometimes it does some kind of special damage, it occasionally hits one of my summoned guys and does like 40 points of damage & seems to inflect some kind of spell. Of course there is no description of this in the manual, so I have no idea what it is actually or what the chance is of it doing its special damage, it seems to have a small percentage chance, like critical hit, of happening. I typically make them a priority target for my archers.

I don't think anything is worth 12k in this game except squads. The squad cost of that sword might be cheaper, I havent checked.
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You may be thinking of Sions, and that effect is particular to them.

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Quoting Gwenio1, reply 3



Quoting cpl_rk,
reply 2
Sometimes it does some kind of special damage, it occasionally hits one of my summoned guys and does like 40 points of damage & seems to inflect some kind of spell. Of course there is no description of this in the manual, so I have no idea what it is actually or what the chance is of it doing its special damage, it seems to have a small percentage chance, like critical hit, of happening. I typically make them a priority target for my archers.

I don't think anything is worth 12k in this game except squads. The squad cost of that sword might be cheaper, I havent checked.



You may be thinking of Sions, and that effect is particular to them.
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It might be. There's no explanation in the manual, so there's no way of knowing for sure.

Reply #5 Top

Well, I bough one in my last game (yop, turtler and alliance type so no big army for me except at the end when I want some fun with the wandering monster) and doest nothing special exept the 14 atck

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Its an expensive piece of shit.

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Its an expensive piece of shit.
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ROFL. I was hoping that wasn't case but thanks for confirming!

Reply #8 Top

Should have an achievement to it: Congrats, you spend 12k on a sword  :)

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Quoting Goldmos, reply 8
Should have an achievement to it: Congrats, you spend 12k on a sword 
End of Goldmos's quote

What's the squad cost for the sword?

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Quoting cpl_rk, reply 9

Quoting Goldmos, reply 8Should have an achievement to it: Congrats, you spend 12k on a sword 

What's the squad cost for the sword?
End of cpl_rk's quote

 

Not much, you see I created a squad with about everything I can put on them (include medical pack, amulet, ring, band and other thing) and cost me for a 12 man squad about 2K for an asthonishing 201 att and 302 def... 400 crystal if I remember correctly. BUT, I think I equipped them with claymore... so maybe a little much for Karrazan sword... also, we need elementium and I don't know how to get it :).

Reply #11 Top

Elementium is a random element that you find exploring, you know the dungeaons and what not, piles of crates things like that.  You can't mine it or anything, its just a random find.

-Gizmet

Reply #12 Top

You can't creat a unit with this sword, as far as I know.

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Quoting Lord, reply 12
You can't creat a unit with this sword, as far as I know.
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Well, there is a squad that I run into, scion squad that had this sword :)

Reply #14 Top

Well, there is a squad that I run into, scion squad that had this sword
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I think they only have karrazan----not elementium karrazan---not that I really wait around to find out, Scions are a pain---priority kill.

Reply #15 Top

Stardock could create an expensive item in a game that is of no real use?? I don't believe it, Ahem, cough galactic resort, cough, secret police,... cough cough

Reply #16 Top

After verification, you are rigth: I can't create a squad with karrazan sword... my bad :). By the way, I check my full equip compagny and it's 2.5K with 450 crystal to make them a force of 338 att and 795 def... so for about 1/5 price, I can have a kick ass army (but it cost me 25.4 gold upkeep).

 

EDIT: wasn't secret police for not being spyed on and Galactic resort to boost your influence?

Reply #17 Top

There ain't a whole lot of shit I don't know about this game as it is right now, I've played it's dick off.  That makes more sense if you are one of the few people who like to interchange as many of your words as possible with profanity like me.

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Quoting Lord, reply 17
There ain't a whole lot of shit I don't know about this game as it is right now, I've played it's dick off.  That makes more sense if you are one of the few people who like to interchange as many of your words as possible with profanity like me.
End of Lord's quote

lol.  Just lol.

Yeah, I've noticed Resoln soldiers toting around Karrazan's before too.  Don't think they're Elementium, but they're definitely Karrazan's.  It seems to give HP Regen.  Dunno about the Elementium Karrazan though...  I've got something like 14K Gold in my current game...  I'll have to check that out.

But yes, I am relatively sure it's an expensive piece of shit, as Lord Xia so eloquently put it.  (Really, that was eloquent, as there's no other fitting way to describe it.)  Of course I trust his judgment and experience on the matter, but I'll have to see for myself as well.  And I can't fathom why it would cost 12,000 freakin' gold for a sword with 3 extra attack on the Sovereign's Sword...  I mean, is THREE extra really worth 12K?  (Obviously not.)

...Or I could spend that gold to finally get my Diplo Victory...  Yeah, forget it, I'll just trust you guys on this and spend my Gold to actually do something...  Like win the game...

Edit:  That's pointing a finger at you, Stardock, for making a ridiculously expensive sword that does NOTHING!

Reply #19 Top

AFAIK the only advantage of the sword is it gives you an attack normally achieved only through two handed weapons while letting you use a shield.

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Stardock could create an expensive item in a game that is of no real use?? I don't believe it, Ahem, cough galactic resort, cough, secret police,... cough cough
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LOL...I remember building those 8C

Reply #21 Top

If it is possible to create a unit with either the K sword or the E-K sword, I haven't been able to do it, or see it, except with a Scion.  Now, there might be a combination of Race+Faction, that could produce that possiblity.  Not all races have access to everything.  Most races can't use Scale mail.  Why?  Devs probably just forgot to give it to them.  But generally, the race of "Men" and "Kingdom"  groupings, aka Altar, has most things working for them, and they can't create units with them.  As the K sword is Kingdom only, and the E-K sword is both, but have never seen either as a weapon on a unit, or as a choice to make one.  Would be a nice choice. 

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Quoting Archonsod, reply 19
AFAIK the only advantage of the sword is it gives you an attack normally achieved only through two handed weapons while letting you use a shield.
End of Archonsod's quote

 

Except the non-Elementium karrazan has the exact same attack power, and a +2 combat speed to boot, for like 200 gold.

 

Also, Sions start with the regular karrazan.  No Kingdom unit has them, and neither faction can design a unit that uses them.

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Quoting Archonsod, reply 19
AFAIK the only advantage of the sword is it gives you an attack normally achieved only through two handed weapons while letting you use a shield.
End of Archonsod's quote

 

Seriously? Wow, I will buy a legendary shield to complete the arsenal :).

Reply #24 Top

I would assume this is the old "Place Holder" developer trick. They put an item/spell in a game. It isn't completely fleshed out, so they "bug" it. They make it so the description is "item4326v.204red" or some crazy 'shit' (trying to blend in here) like that. This is completely a joke to have it cost 12k.

It's not worth 250. Then again, nothing is worth over 250 (offensive) if that is price of longbows. I guess, they made EK sword, want to use it in game someday, but are trying to 'balance' combat right now, and/or want it to Proc. Either they don't have ability to Proc, or are afraid that a sword that regens mana or something like that would be a gamebreaker. So they make it 12k knowing no one will buy it until the game is already won already.

Another "expensive piece of shit" is the cost of legendary armor for one of those giant factions. I forget which one, but each item is like 1000 gold. It is normally 120ish for everyone else. So I get sovereign, 4 kids. I need 15k to put armor on them? Playing a different faction, I could armor my sovereign, all 4 kids, and every hero I hire (roughly 6 more) for under 15k. (more like 4k roughly). All I need to do is equip them with EK swords and let er rip.

 

Reply #25 Top

The 12K sword? You can afford it with 7 gold mines, no armies extensive trading for Gold in 800 turns. It is worthless. Just find "A Humble Inn" a level 0 quest. Take it, get the 3 midnight stones and take the +1 longsword you get from it. I have never seen it do under 21 damage, regardless of who wields it.