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Report Bad Starting Locations Here

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If you are experiencing any of the following issues with map generation:

- Start locations very near to opponents
- Start locations on impassable terrain (mountains or sea)
- Start locations completely blocked off from other players
- Maps with rivers running across the sea
- Other strange terrain, especially if it would affect gameplay

Please open your debug.err file after this happens and look for a line like this:

Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1253569728
End of quote

Then paste the number there into this thread with a description of the sort of map issue you had. Please do not respond here for issues resulting from starting a second game in the same session or loading a save, as those are different problems.

If the map issue you're seeing is one of the "other" kind, please include a screenshot too so we can see what sort of issue it is.

Update: We should have enough examples of bad rivers now, please keep further reports to start location issues.

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Reply #101 from Elemental Forums Top

Version 0.295

 

No screenshot - could not get back into elemental after alt+tab to get to jing - but position was directly at the coast, together with a goody hut on three empty spaces, surrounded by mountains on all sides. Sovereign could not get out of there.

 

Seed:1267814919

 

Cheers,

G

Reply #102 from Elemental Forums Top

Version 0.295

This shows multiple problems:

This is part of a peninsula that is blocked by a mountain range so that Gilden is blocked off from the other factions.  It looks like there might be a pass through the mountains, but I can't move my sovereign through it.  Further down the peninsula (not shown) is another mountain range that blocks off the end of the peninsula.

Also note that, after about 30 turns, Gilden has still not built a city.  I don't know if he stuck's on an unbuildable tile or what, but it's pretty clearly either a bad starting location for him or if there's an AI bug preventing him from building.

Finally, there are some oddities with rivers pointed out.

Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1267838483

Update: Oh, also notice that the beehive and mine next to the Gilden seem to be in the mountains.

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Reply #104 from Elemental Forums Top

Another long peninsula with mountains blocking my sovereign off from the other kingdoms.

Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1267901989

Reply #106 from Elemental Forums Top

Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1267990291

I don't know if it's related or not, but I seem to be getting more of these bad locations when I use a custom sovereign and custom race.

Starting location surrounded by forests and mountains.  There's an orchard and a mine nearby, but any city built here will have no place to build any housing.  The only way out of this little enclave is over the hills to the southeast, and it's a 20 tile trek to the nearest fertile land/wild wheat tile.

Check it out, check-it-outers: