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Report Bad Starting Locations Here

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If you are experiencing any of the following issues with map generation:

- Start locations very near to opponents
- Start locations on impassable terrain (mountains or sea)
- Start locations completely blocked off from other players
- Maps with rivers running across the sea
- Other strange terrain, especially if it would affect gameplay

Please open your debug.err file after this happens and look for a line like this:

Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1253569728
End of quote

Then paste the number there into this thread with a description of the sort of map issue you had. Please do not respond here for issues resulting from starting a second game in the same session or loading a save, as those are different problems.

If the map issue you're seeing is one of the "other" kind, please include a screenshot too so we can see what sort of issue it is.

Update: We should have enough examples of bad rivers now, please keep further reports to start location issues.

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Reply #76 from Elemental Forums Top

Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1256490929

which gave me a firtile spot ontop of water, as can be seen, here:

Reply #77 from Elemental Forums Top

Starting point on a small island (.25):

Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1256492150

Galactic Civilizations IV
Reply #78 from Elemental Forums Top

Opponent stuck on island (.25).

Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1256493746

Reply #79 from Elemental Forums Top

This map was an N shaped continent, with a mountain range in the lower crook of the N that blocked access from one side to the other.

Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1256688015

Reply #80 from Elemental Forums Top

Question for the developers - I'm seeing more and more maps with islands, some where my sovereign is alone on an island, some where one or more opponents are isolated on an island.  Do you still want those reported here?  With the introduction of naval techs in 0.25 (although not yet useful) I'm wondering if the islands are deliberate.

Reply #81 from Elemental Forums Top

Two opponents isolated on an island.  Elsewhere on the same map there's a peninsula with one player on it that looks like it's walled off by mountains.

Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1256688654

Reply #82 from Elemental Forums Top

Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1256902087

Started on a Island. My Kingdom for a Boat!!! :)

Reply #83 from Elemental Forums Top

Uncommonly rich starting location: 1256912963

Three fertile lands right next to me, and a spider nest nearby as well.

Reply #84 from Elemental Forums Top

Random map seed: 1256919072

Lost my screenshot, but I started with my sovereign on a 1-tile island surrounded by water.

Reply #85 from Elemental Forums Top

Here's yet another peninsula blocked off by mountains.

Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1257481873

Reply #87 from Elemental Forums Top

Dragon statue surrounded by mountains. Or maybe dragon statue ON a mountain. Either way, not good: 1258238091

Reply #88 from Elemental Forums Top

Islands might not be so bad once we have ships in the game.

Reply #89 from Elemental Forums Top

I think its perfectly fine for a Dragon to be on a mountain. Maybe impassable terrain can be traversed by adventurers? maybe its mountain Cave/ mountain path tile instead of mountain, and able to be accessed diagonally? as long as its not unreachable. Living high up in the mountains is fine by me though :)

Reply #90 from Elemental Forums Top

Speaking of mountains, I'm stuck on this peninsula:1259376381

Reply #91 from Elemental Forums Top

Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1259887743

Couldn't found a city on the square I started on due to the error message shown. Square appeared clear (hidden resource?). Later on I couldn't build into that empty square either.

Reply #92 from Elemental Forums Top

Goody hut surrounded on eight sides by mountains, and on the ninth by water: 1259974941

Reply #93 from Elemental Forums Top

"Right, I've got the magic, lets go conquer the world!"

 

"Er, Mr Sovreign sir, we've got a problem"

 

"Nothing can stop me, I am an immortal channeler!"

 

What about those mountains walling us in on this tiny peninsula?"

 

"Oh."

 

 

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Reply #94 from Elemental Forums Top

With so many resources and all that, it seems difficult to judge when a starting position is simply good or just too good for it's own good. And not just for what you get around you when you start but also about those that are close to that point.

Map Random Seed: 1260467416

Others: Map Random Seed: 1260134882, Map Random Seed: 1260296407

Reply #95 from Elemental Forums Top

I didn't zoom out quite far enough, but the bottom of the area is completely blocked by mountains.  With sea travel or a way to cross mountains this might be viable, but it's somewhat borderline.  If I was planning on plaing pretty agressively it would be very secure, but in most cases I wouldn't think much of it.

Map Random Seed: 1261097290

 

 

Reply #96 from Elemental Forums Top

Heres my new one with a picture. Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1261257951

 

 

 

Reply #97 from Elemental Forums Top

Debug Message:  Land Mass Size: 134932848
Debug Message:  Land Mass Min Spawns: 135376528
Debug Message:  Land Mass Max Spawns: 135377576
Debug Message:  Forest Quantity: 3
Debug Message:  Mountain Generation Option: 1
Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1261270585

Reply #98 from Elemental Forums Top

Spawned on top of an "Aged beast remains": 1262110691

Reply #99 from Elemental Forums Top

I spawned in a fairly big open area, but it turns out it was entirely locked in by mounts to the north, east and south and the ocean in the west. Unfortunately I crashed, and so don't have a picture.

Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1264554700

Reply #100 from Elemental Forums Top

 Version 0.295

Debug Message:  Map Random Seed: 1267800765