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PC vs. Mac

-or- the suit vs. the slacker

from JoeUser Forums
By now, I am sure most of us have seen the new round of Mac vs. PC commercials. You know, the one with the middle age, sort of uptight looking, fuddy-duddy dude in a suit representing a PC, and the young, hip, cool, laid-back dude in old jeans and a T-shirt representing a Mac.

I have seen a couple of variations, but they all focus on the same thing. They all are trying to convey the same message: Macs are just cool and "work", whereas PCs are out of touch, laborious and problematic. Of course, I find it odd that so much of the advertising lately is on the hardware (considering I am typing this entry on my Windows laptop with Intel Core Duo processors, an pretty nice ATI graphics card, more RAM than a Mac Book and a larger HD than a Mac Book, at easily a few hundred dollars lower cost).

Nevertheless, I am not a Mac hater. In fact, I fully anticipate owning a Mac someday, when I can afford to have one IN ADDITION to my Windows computers. But I have to admit, I really don't care for these new ads. They just seem like such a faulty use of details, that honestly, I think they are embarrassing. In that spirit I share the following (sorry, can't paste the image myself as it is not mine and I don't have permission to be pasting it):

An alternative comparison between PC dude and Mac dude.

I found this quite entertaining.
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Reply #126 from WinCustomize Forums Top
when i work in InterContinetal hotels group as an agent, that's hotel reservation for the guest, i have my first time to used MAC there , Since the booking system is based on the Macintosh V8.0 (maybe), but as to me , that Mac OS is not so stable and convinet as windows xp, maybe we have get used to windows. but it has been changed since i saw Mac tiger X . it is beatiful.
Reply #127 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Thanks for the link, Meowy!! There's a lot to read there, but that's okay 'cause since this discussion began, I've become a bit of a sponge for info on all things Mac.

I do have a valid copy of Tiger, so..


Naturally I'd be looking to use a legit copy of Tiger/Leopard so I'm able to receive updates and support, etc. I don't know that you can just purchase the OS separately, so while I've been considering an Intel based Mac at around $2600 (Aus) for my desktop, I've also been looking at an Intel based mini-Mac with Tiger or Leopard loaded as an introduction to Apple Macs....

More research is required, but I need to know if I can use my current monitor, keyboard and mouse, etc...whether or not I can connect my PC and Mac at the same time via dual adaptors, because if not, I may as well purchase the complete Mac system to begin with....and then, to save having two systems functioning on the same desktop, to have XP and Tiger/Leopard dual booting on one or the other or both.

It's not an immediate thing, but it's a project I'd like to undertake in the nearish future....I probably need to buy a new TV before getting around to it.
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Reply #128 from WinCustomize Forums Top
If Microsoft releases Windows Vista on time and with all the functions they were talking about, then 2007 is going to be a "Live" hell for Mac.

For some reason, Microsoft team started, finally, responding to what people want; I have never seen this much listening from Microsoft since I can remember, and based on how much improvements I've seen between Vista Beta 1 and Beta 2, I must admit that Bill Gates is ready to rumble and win the next match by flying colors. The amount of testing and developing in Vista is unbelievable, and if Microsoft keeps working on this phase (without the delays), then we all should kiss MAC's good bye in the next 2 years.

I think that bill gates is becoming old and bored of collecting money, so based on my own prediction I can say "Congratulations Microsoft for winning the Tech war for at least the first 2 decades in the 21 century".

MAC is going to evolve in a small step forward simply because they have already showed there goods last year and this year, in other words, nothing new that they can do, except them joining the Microsoft army, which I can see coming but after few years, Mark my words!

I want everybody including "Windows or MAC" haters to visit this site and see why Vista's new software-built-in ready to use system is going to smash the world of OS!

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_feature_focus.asp

Peace for now; I love this discussion, many thoughts and many good points. Windows is still winning the discussion over here, so show us more of what you have MAC fans other than looks of the MAC!
Reply #129 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Made a call before to my local Apple Store (Launceston Tasmania) to tentatively enquire about the iMacs/miniMacs. Seems if I get the Intel (1.66mhz duo core, 512 DDR SDRAM) miniMac with an optional extra 120gig HD, I can use my current monitor, other peripherals I have laying around and dual boot XP using BootCamp....total price around $900 (Aus), with DVD/CD player/burner combo.

What's more, at just 6,5" square and 2" high, it could either sit on top my PC tower or in a pigeon hole on my desk top. Either way, it's unobstrusive yet has the functionality of the larger iMac, if not quite the power.

I'm going in next week to test-drive, explore it's possibilities/potential...buying it is another matter (have other priorities), but I'll know what I want, and if I wait a little longer anyhow, I'd be able to get one with the new Leopard OS instead. Sometime after X-Mas I reckon/hope.
Reply #130 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Made a call before to my local Apple Store (Launceston Tasmania) to tentatively enquire about the iMacs/miniMacs.

All ya gotta do now is wait till Tassie gets electricity....

Reply #131 from WinCustomize Forums Top
All ya gotta do now is wait till Tassie gets electricity..


Aha....but I got lotsa mouses in a treadmill generating my own...and the cat handy if they get lazy.

And if i need more power to run another OS, I'll get a rottwieler and put the cat in the treadmill
Reply #132 from WinCustomize Forums Top
My OS X is booting in 8 seconds.. Faster then the new iMac
Reply #133 from WinCustomize Forums Top
My OS X is booting in 8 seconds.. Faster then the new iMac


Does it still have its clothes on?
Reply #134 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I have been running this debate myself for a while now. I am a PC based graphic designer and have been for 10 years. I’ve been thinking about a mac only to satisfy those potential clients who will only hire mac designers (even though they will never know what system their magazine was designed on). Maybe I just fail to understand why owning a mac makes you a better or more skilled designer, or somehow validates your career choice.

Also, I do a lot of GIS and Digital Mapping with ArcGIS, ArcInfo, and ArcMap – something a mac has never been able to do.
Reply #135 from WinCustomize Forums Top
My OS X is booting in 8 seconds.. Faster then the new iMac


Ahhh! Another pre-intel Mac fanboy, I see....another: "My dad's stronger than your dad." analogy.

So Meowy, what are you running your OS-X on....a G5 quad core Mac with 10 gigs of RAM?

Seriously, though, I am interested....not that I could ever afford such a Mac. I was looking at prices on the Apple site, and a G5 starts at around 5 'n a half grand (Aus). So it seems, to get started with OS-X, I'm only going to be able to afford an Intel based Mac system, most probably the mini iMac at $950 (Aus)

I’ve been thinking about a mac only to satisfy those potential clients who will only hire mac designers (even though they will never know what system their magazine was designed on). Maybe I just fail to understand why owning a mac makes you a better or more skilled designer, or somehow validates your career choice.


There might be some who think that way, revelling in the prestige and fame of owning a Mac (infamy to Windows fanboys ), but each system has its plusses and minuses, and I want a Mac to satisfy my own curiosity/need to learn more about computing, not to big note myself among Windows owner/operators....and I'll never become a fanboy of either system.

Quite simply, I just want to enjoy the best each OS has to offer. After using Windows 95 and 98se for a short while, I find XP Pro a very good and stable OS that I enjoy using. However, when Vista is released, I'll also purchase it to further my Windows experience, while also running OS-X as an alternative OS with different options/possibilities.
Reply #136 from WinCustomize Forums Top
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Reply #137 from WinCustomize Forums Top
tell me a good thing bout windows i cant do on a mac, can windows dualboot? can windows do heavy graphics? can windows NOT get virus, can windows DONT crash, can windows have a IDVD IMOVIE OR IWEB, nah ill stick up with the clock and the calculator


http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=55003
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Project Goal: The goal of this project, is to get near virus immunity, and spyware immunity (except for spyware cookies).
Also clean up the registry by removing some 4000+ un-needed keys, and increase security at the same time by stopping any windows service from accessing the internet.

OS X is virus vulnerable...just people who make viruses have no point in making a virus for it. It would be like spraying a special pesticide to kill caterpillars when the field is being torn up Locusts that there are 90% more of than caterpillars.

I always thought a Personal Computer was just that, a Personal Computer. The End User decides and all this Apple ad does is show the snobbish attitude Apple has plus it will make people focus on the faults of the OS (a smart consumer).

Though with these kinds of attitudes issuing forth from the Mac user populace, my intentions to have the two Personal Computers, an Apple running OS X and the uber-game/video machine AMD Dual Core or Intel Dual running Windows. Well now it seems it will be short one Apple machine as that machine now has more probability of not being an Apple than being one. Linux and Windows will probably be the end result unless these dreadful attitudes can be changed, which I find highly unlikely at the moment.

LOL, PPL UR IN A FORUM WHERE PPL COME TO CHANGE THERE OS ALMOST IN EVERY WAY, SO I GUESS WINDOWS IS NOT THAT NICE THEN...

Its called Microsoft didn't want to kill off third party software makers just so they could have a pretty OS. De De De!!

In conclusion, that ad alternative is hilarious...the real Apple ad is irritating and disgusting use of marketting tactics. In Windows ads they don't attack Apple...obviously the same thing cannot be said about Apple. Plus last time I checked there are several OSs on a PC Machine not just Windows, so when you attack a PC...well...you get the picture.

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Reply #138 from JoeUser Forums Top
"OS X is virus vulnerable...just people who make viruses have no point in making a virus for it. It would be like spraying a special pesticide to kill caterpillars when the field is being torn up Locusts that there are 90% more of than caterpillars."

Every system is susceptible to viruses. Nonetheless, OS X is still more secure than Windows (and not just because of its userbase).

"I always thought a Personal Computer was just that, a Personal Computer. The End User decides and all this Apple ad does is show the snobbish attitude Apple has plus it will make people focus on the faults of the OS (a smart consumer)."

Yes, most marketing is quite humble and modest about the products advertised. And what kind of attitude do you think Microsoft has? You don't think they think highly of their products?

"Though with these kinds of attitudes issuing forth from the Mac user populace, my intentions to have the two Personal Computers, an Apple running OS X and the uber-game/video machine AMD Dual Core or Intel Dual running Windows. Well now it seems it will be short one Apple machine as that machine now has more probability of not being an Apple than being one. Linux and Windows will probably be the end result unless these dreadful attitudes can be changed, which I find highly unlikely at the moment."

To allow fanatics to decide your purchasing plans is the stupidest thing I've ever heard somebody do. And are you really so naive that you don't see that Linux has an irritating group of zealots of its own? If you aren't aware of them, then get aware of them, and if you're not a hypocrite, then you won't use Linux either because of its irritating community. Personally, I wouldn't keep Apple's fanbase from keeping me from buying a Mac, Nintendo's fanbase (which is the most fanatic of the three game console companies) from buying a DS or a Wii, etc.

There are Apple zealots, but there are also anti-Apple zealots. Not that there's anything wrong with either group. I just hope zealots will be honest about their biases.

"In conclusion, that ad alternative is hilarious...the real Apple ad is irritating and disgusting use of marketting tactics. In Windows ads they don't attack Apple...obviously the same thing cannot be said about Apple. Plus last time I checked there are several OSs on a PC Machine not just Windows, so when you attack a PC...well...you get the picture."

Have you ever seen Microsoft's ad that attacks Linux? It was German. What about those old Microsoft ads for Internet Explorer that attacked Netscape when Netscape was still king?

"Plus last time I checked there are several OSs on a PC Machine not just Windows, so when you attack a PC...well...you get the picture."

Not OS X though.
Reply #139 from WinCustomize Forums Top
So Meowy, what are you running your OS-X on....a G5 quad core Mac with 10 gigs of RAM?


Pentium 4 2.8 GHz with 512 megs of RAM.
Reply #140 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Pentium 4 2.8 GHz with 512 megs of RAM.


Mmmm, very interesting....should run on my AMD 3200+/1.5gig of RAM rig alright then, but me has one of them P4 CPU's spare, along with mostly everything else (would just need a case, more RAM), and I got me a similar rig to yours, should I not wanna mess around with the one I'm using now. I just have to wait 'til aroung Jan/Feb 07 to pick up my Intel Mac with OS-X on it....hopefully Leopard.
Reply #141 from WinCustomize Forums Top
You might want to check the OSx86 Project HCL to make sure your Mobo is supported..
Reply #142 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Xiozan, i guess ur right, OSX beign UNIX based is so not safe, as well as most super servers around the world!, and well, the ads are very bothersome, microsoft has embarrased themselves more than these ads (win 98"plug and play" blueee screen).Windows is a quite stable system, however its failure to keep organizaton is a big factor over safety and performance, when u open up a "windows" archive, well its a complete mess, however the system folder on the osx keeps everything organized, plus more than 90% of the apps in osx dont even touch system folders or so, windows does quite the opossite, bout the safety issue, lets wait for vista to get out, take charge its not a leap from XP, since its basic arquitecture is similar, diferent from the leap to OS 9 to osX, so lets wait for the "windows vista is bullet proof" till it actually hits the market, cus beta 2 has lots of generic processes going (SVCHOST) and that simply cant be safe,so lets just wait.I know osX Leopard will not be a big thing, but it will be a performance boost for all the intel based mac users.And lets all give credit to windows, there are a lot of things windows can do better, like Excel, Excel,oh right and Excel, as well as many other things, and mac can do better things that windows would not do that well, its all on choices, however, bout safety, its not bullet proof, but surelly will still be than vista,i dont know what does the amount of the computers sold has to do with a virus, making an app for mac to interact with the OS and affect it must be hard, not an .EXE easy thing, maybe a zipped file? dont know, dont care, all i know is i bet ppl here in there pc's have reformated their HD more times that i have done in my mac life (well since the imac era).
Reply #144 from JoeUser Forums Top
WOW Blue Dev! You go out in style. You got a big one here! And still going.
Reply #145 from JoeUser Forums Top
I've been using mac for years...I'm using an ancient powerbook now, but will be upgrading to an ibook in the fall. Also, I'm appylying for a grant to get some nice new refurbished imacs into my classroom (to replace some really dated ones).

Honestly, I don't know what I'd do without mac. I'm a PC phobe, unfortunately.
Reply #146 from WinCustomize Forums Top
You might want to check the OSx86 Project HCL to make sure your Mobo is supported..


Yep, did that and there seems no reason why not, with both my spare mobo/CPU and on my current setup....just gotta wait 'til I get my Mac now.

But PC vs Mac? No such thing in my book...I'll never knock users/supporters of either system. It's each to their own, and if someone happens to use/like both, then that's okay too...it shows an open mind rather than fanaticism.
Reply #147 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I like windows, but lets not compare a popular, normal tech OS, with a high tech unix mounted OS, it all comes down to the bugs, each to their own way of seeing things, what i simply dont like is pc fans that say things that dont have a point of osx, that's when i get fany! but like i said, for me a more stable, user fiendly,more bullet proof system works with me, regardless of the millions of apps that pc has, im very happy with tha apps that work on mac (ok except for excel, that the prob is the formulas are not in spanish, so i have to take courses) and dont have the need to have millions o aplications, windows on my mac, well that's plain good (only use it for excel again) and sometimes have hours of enjoyment on xp. But we all have to accept the facts,and in here, much nonsense is spoken (specially of the OSX safety). And its good that vista is backdoor proof finally, its a big leap,hope stays that way.And bout the we steal things for instance that macophobes say, there's not such thing, microsoft and apple stole all from xerox, so no point, a new thing is applephobes sayin widgets, and the new vista thing are tha same and they stole it from apple, when it all came from stradock, and by the way, i think apple bough it from them, cus its called the same.Windows is ur popular BMW 5 series, when a apple is a exotic m5, they might be same looking, but style and performance of apple brand is better than any, even if they have better specs,u pay more for that close to perfect hardware experience, i mean, what dell lap top is made of aluminium?
Reply #148 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I think that there's no competition between Microsoft and Apple. Both companies were founded on the same year and Apple developed the first computer to get out of DOS and was the first computer company to sell over 1 Million Personal Computers AND filed a copyright infringement on Microsoft for copying their Mac for use with the Windows 3.0. They later developed the style of computers which started todays desktop computers and allowed copying of their Mac, so basically, if it weren't for Apples' Mac, we wouldnt be using Windows how it looks today! I did my research!
Reply #149 from WinCustomize Forums Top

I did my research!

Ah...but did you do it well?.....

Reply #150 from WinCustomize Forums Top
filed a copyright infringement on Microsoft for copying their Mac for use with the Windows 3.0.


Which they lost since they had copped the interface from Xerox.