[eINFO] Havok skeletons to max/maya

By on October 22, 2012 4:48:07 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Heavenfall

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I have previously made a topic about how to rip the Havok graphics files from the game: http://forums.elementalgame.com/399409

However, the method was fairly limited because there wasn't a way to rig the models to any skeletons (=models that aren't animated).

Stardock has graciously released some skeletons for us to work with in the past, notably horse, warg, humanoid and spider skeletons. Those helped me build new monsters, mounts and other units such as the Drota.

Unfortunately, Stardock has turned down my requests for the other skeletons such as Dragons, Drakes and other stuff.

Today I managed to "reverse-engineer" the Havok XML format to output the skeletons in 3ds Max. Effectively, I can now rip the skeletons from the game as well. This will allow us to insert new graphics into the game using the existing skeletons and therefore animations.

 

To prevent Stardocks models/skeletons/animations being ripped and stolen by some chinese studio, I am not going to release the scripts that are necessary to create the skeletons. Instead, if there is any modder that is interested in this sort of thing, just send me a PM and I will get you the skeletons you want.

 

 

Done so far:

Wingless dragon: http://i.imgur.com/C9Ufk.jpg

Half-drake: http://i.imgur.com/Dtg1S.jpg

Fiery Gorgon: http://i.imgur.com/D5yIj.jpg

Ophidian Gorgon: http://i.imgur.com/eF42Z.jpg

Venusians: http://i.imgur.com/pfsST.jpg

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October 22, 2012 5:05:59 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I hope this means you ride a dragon now!

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October 22, 2012 5:09:32 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Score one for the modders.

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October 22, 2012 5:33:18 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting FatNonFree,
I hope this means you ride a dragon now!

Stormworld already has ridable dragons. This will let me put new ones in though.

 

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October 22, 2012 6:57:04 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Heavenfall, does Stormworld have a human race?  I.e. a race that is not too far out there?  A non-magical people that eats grain and meat, drinks water, etc...

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October 22, 2012 11:52:52 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Tuidjy,
Heavenfall, does Stormworld have a human race?  I.e. a race that is not too far out there?  A non-magical people that eats grain and meat, drinks water, etc...

 

8 of them if you play with the vanilla factions enabled 

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October 23, 2012 12:58:06 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I'm pretty sure the Trogs eat infants and drink souls, but close enough

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October 23, 2012 6:01:50 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

You are a king amongst men.

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October 23, 2012 8:47:39 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

First model done!

http://i.imgur.com/C9Ufk.jpg

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October 23, 2012 9:08:02 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Great stuff!

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October 23, 2012 9:25:32 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Heavenfall,
First model done!

http://i.imgur.com/C9Ufk.jpg

Dude - that rox my sox. Bitchin'.

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October 23, 2012 12:58:27 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Awesome

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October 23, 2012 1:03:25 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

A very British looking dragon.

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October 23, 2012 1:39:56 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Would we be able to do things like rig up models from other games, for instance NWN, to work in FE?

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October 23, 2012 1:51:58 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Yes, within the limits of copyright.

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October 23, 2012 2:59:57 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Heavenfall,
Yes, within the limits of copyright.

 

Ah, I am not sure where that line is drawn. I imagine we can't use models and skins from the game. I wonder if the gazillion models, textures etc created by the community falls under those same limits. Not that it matters much, I'm terrible when it comes to all things texture, models and animation. But maybe one of these days...

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October 23, 2012 3:12:35 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

When I started out I was also terrible. Now I am merely awful!

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October 23, 2012 3:19:46 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Heavenfall,
When I started out I was also terrible. Now I am merely awful!

 

Well, the few baby steps I have taken so far I owe to you and the other people who helped in the explain it to me like I am 5 thread. I am able to do textures now, models and animation shouldn't be that hard ! But they can wait, while I work on things I know how to do.

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October 24, 2012 7:15:18 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Next up some sweet drake hybrids: http://i.imgur.com/Dtg1S.jpg

Coming to a Stormworld champion near you soon!

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October 24, 2012 1:48:58 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Since I already had the upper body, why not a snake hybrid as well http://i.imgur.com/rTQju.jpg

Edit: Changed the skin on the stomach to flow a little better http://i.imgur.com/D5yIj.jpg

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October 24, 2012 2:37:44 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Amazing work, thanks for the teasers.

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October 25, 2012 6:13:28 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Might as well get this little bastard into the game while I'm on the topic of snakes. http://i.imgur.com/eF42Z.jpg

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October 31, 2012 8:20:54 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Venusian Empire, a group of monsters (not playable) that will visit a desert near you in next Stormworld patch.

http://i.imgur.com/pfsST.jpg

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October 31, 2012 11:21:46 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Those look really good.  I have tried for years to do modelling of any sort.  I have come to the conclusion that I will never be any good.  

So, which program do you use, isn't Max/Maya both pretty expensive?  I've always used Blender, but I am game to use something else if it is a reasonable price.

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October 31, 2012 11:31:01 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Yeah they're expensive. I still have my license from my old company.

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October 31, 2012 11:55:23 AM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Heavenfall,
Yeah they're expensive. I still have my license from my old company.

 

Good deal that.    Ok, well this is something my son is interested in, so maybe I'll have to invest in a 3d modelling program, we'll see.  

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