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persistent CRASH after returning to game

August 22, 2012 10:45:10 PM from Elemental ForumsElemental Forums

This crash has happened over 3 different games.  About mid-game, I save and leave the game.  When I return, it loads fine then crashes when I either [END TURN] or try to SAVE. 

 

I can't figure out how to drop the debug file in this post.

 

 

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Jonestowne
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Reply #1 August 23, 2012 10:58:24 AM
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I've had this happen too and so have a lot of other people. I can't use my auto-saves either. I'm reluctant to start a new game since I expect it will happend again.

 

Does anyone know of a way to avoid it?

 

I need to add that with this new build, I'm finding the game more interesting than ever. So I'm looking forward to start playing again.

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Jonestowne
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Reply #2 August 23, 2012 10:15:30 PM
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I just experienced same thing myself.

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Jonestowne
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Reply #3 August 23, 2012 10:20:49 PM
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If you don't already have Dropbox, you can get it here:

http://db.tt/HPj6frXK

This is a must-have (in terms of making your life better) program.

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Jonestowne
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Reply #4 August 23, 2012 10:45:49 PM
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I have experienced the same thing.

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Jonestowne
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Reply #5 August 25, 2012 4:57:33 PM
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I have had this happen in two of three games in 0.95 so far.   It's really frustrating.  Both games were playing out in a fun way and then I could not continue after saving and coming back the next day.   Here is my autosave file that crashes on load:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h6do3lpxo20fwl4/AutoSave.EleSav

and my debug.err

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5oi9ewjuxw989rh/debug.err

 

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Jonestowne
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Reply #6 August 25, 2012 5:08:32 PM
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If you read posts in the forums you would see this is a common occuring problem.

 

What happens is the factions are not loaded when you load your save. Then when you hit end of turn it crashes because there is nothing to beloning to that AI.

 

The easiest way to notice this bug is if you have met factions and they have disappeared from the power list. If you could actually see their territory before and when the game loads the cities are gone then it has occured.

 

From my experience with the bug when your save game does this it will infect any other save you try and load as well. Restart the game before loading any other save.

 

So if you are thinking about a long game I would make multiple saves periodically and not rely solely on the auto saves.

 

 

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Reply #7 August 25, 2012 9:55:21 PM
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That fits the experience I had with my previous auto save.   It actually loads but I noticed Kraxis was missing.   I then end turn and get a crash.  The latest autosave though just crashes out it ever finishes loading.  I guess its a variation of the same issue.   I normally do save frequently.    The last time I had this occur was not with my auotsave.  it was with my latest manual save.   This time around I just hadn't done a manual save for a while.   

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Reply #8 August 26, 2012 3:10:50 PM
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Quoting DTOM,
reply 6
I have had this happen in two of three games in 0.95 so far.   It's really frustrating.  Both games were playing out in a fun way and then I could not continue after saving and coming back the next day.   Here is my autosave file that crashes on load:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h6do3lpxo20fwl4/AutoSave.EleSav

and my debug.err

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5oi9ewjuxw989rh/debug.err

 

 

Thank you for this.  it crashes on my system as well.  We are checking it out now.

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Jonestowne
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Reply #9 August 26, 2012 4:05:34 PM
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No problem Derek.  

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Jonestowne
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Reply #10 August 27, 2012 5:24:33 AM
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I have solution for this bug: Save game 4 times( in 1-4 turns)> 3 first saves on save/load list +autosaves always crash when load, but 4 save working  !

Example:

save (top of save/load list)

beta 4.1 crash (end of 232 turn)

autosave crash

previus autosave crash

beta 4.2 crash (start on 232 turn)

beta 4.3 crash (end of 231 turn)

beta 4.4 (start on 231 turn) working !


Maybe this tip help ?

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Jonestowne
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Reply #11 August 27, 2012 5:53:09 AM
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Raaaaaar!

 

i just had the same thing happen as well.

If I load my turn 153 it just crashes before the save loads.

If I load my turn 151 autosave I get in game but notice enemy civ Pariden is missing from the power bar and the city I was about to attack of theirs is gone.

The game then crashes when i hit end turn.

 

Very upsetting, it was going so well and fun until that point.

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Jonestowne
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Reply #12 August 27, 2012 6:14:39 AM
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There are multiple examples of saved games with this issue posted in the FE Support forum,including 2 by me for both .915 and .950. Along with debug and other requested files. 

I hope Derek that you've looked into those also and DTOM's post is not the first time you guys are searching for the problem causing the crashes.

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Jonestowne
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Reply #13 August 27, 2012 6:47:44 PM
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After being able to save, quit, restart, and load the saved game 5 times, I just hit this bug.  Same as described above, at least 2 factions were missing from the map, and the next turn caused a crash that did not produce a dump file. Since Derek already has a saved game to reproduce the problem, I won't bother to upload mine.

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Reply #14 August 27, 2012 11:40:26 PM
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It would be nice if we could get a confirmation as to whether the issue will be fixed in time for the beta 4A ( aka .951)release.

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