When they said they were not going to do much with MP just yet, this is where I thought we would start. Just SP with human players and then work from there.

give us both. how hard could it be to have both when one's practically already made?

Well.... man versus machine... unless some guest gets annoying then you torch his empire too

I will admit its not for everyone but I play a very good range of games, anything from SC2, to COD, to Sins. Since its hard to find anyone to play chess with these days Elemental will just have to do.

Sadly enough, Brad doesn't seem to want this. (Well not short term)

His "Multiplayer" essay just drove a dagger through my poor little TBS-FANTASY-HEART.

I found his concerns to be overblown and misguided, catering to a competitive element in a genre that isn't known for that is kind of weird. I know there are Civ competitions, but it's nothing like RTS or FPS. Those later types of game rather require competive play to be possible, as TBS games should be built for friendly gameplay. You are not going to play a 20 hour game with some random stranger "overnight".

And then he talked about Wizzard Duels *Shudders*. That really, really scared me. Like WTH?

I can't talk about this anymore it's too upsetting lol.

Heres the thing with Brad rest his froggy little soul. Brad isnt into multiplayer TBS. Hes not. I dont blame him... it takes ALOT of time and patience to play this kind of game multiplayer, specially if your playing with people who are just starting to play this kind of game. So Brad made in my opinion a few judgement calls which were not good. However i do believe he said somewhere he was sorry about that, and they would fix that more towards what we want. I dont want to go looking for it on the forum, but i think the intention is to make MP close to SP. I just wanted to see if we couldnt get a little feed back early as to making exactly like SP. I dont like the idea of a unique tech tree for basic MP. Let the modders mod, let the players play.

And whats with everyone calling for hotseat? If Brad thinks this game will be boring playing tactical MP, how painful would hotseat, or play by email be? :/ to each there own.

Player 1: Hey I got a fetlie ground, what did you get?

Player 2: Gold mine, earth shard, oasis, old growth forests, and two lost temples, no fetile ground though.

Player 1: My network cable fell out of the back of my computer, we are going to have to restart.

I agree!

An option for simultaneous turns (not sure how they could be implemented nicely though) wouldn't go amiss either!

Exactly.  Couldnt agree more, if i love playing Elemental single player, why would i want tech trees and such different when i play multiplayer. There will be loads of multiplayer mods(someone needs to buck up and do a tactical battle tower defence, lets see you guys pull that off )

I honestly think if they give us the whole game in MP format, that would be better. I dont want modders trying to put the game back together bless there hearts.

Tom

P.S. If ANYONE at StarDock wants to put together a multiplayer game of GC2 id toss in a couple grand and im dead serious. You out there Frogboy? i know this isnt the time and place to discuss the only short comming of GC2. But man that game was perfect sides the lack of multiplayer.

Semi-simultaneous turns would be great. You can build structures/start training units/fiddle with your tech at any time during the turn, but you can only move your units when your turn is up. Maybe have two buttons: End tactical turn (to let the next player move his units) and end strategic turn, which you hit when you're done micro-managing your empire. The turn as a whole doesn't end until everyone has hit the second button, so if you want to change your training in response to something the last player does, you don't have to scramble to do so.

All (or most) of the benefits of strict turn-based gameplay, but sped up since you don't have to wait for each player to go through making sure all of his cities have enough housing, are training units, are building things, take 15 minutes deciding what tech and/or spell to get next, buying equipment for their champions, negotiating a treaty with another player (who went off to grab a soda...), etc.

I'd just like to see hot-seat mod personally. I always found CIV III-IV a ton of fun hot seat, and would love to see it in Elemental!

lol Sotrander your nuts bud. Hotseat is hell. Specially for this kind of game. But to each there own I guess.