Bought the game, marginally enjoyable for someone who loved the first one but they didn't put much effort into it. Just sort of reskinned Civ IV slapped colonization on the front of the box and called it done. That is how you could have 2 people playing the dutch by my converts would show up at the other dutchman's settlements. It was just... messy. The Civ series certainly has not be perfect, and I agree with the others, Civ V has to offer a lot more than hexagons to get me to switch.

Well I have to admit I have played Civ IV for going on 5 years now. I play with my sister. When we get into a game like these we play a long time and then some which is one of the reasons I care about DRM issues. I don't burn through a game, typically, and then toss it aside. I buy a game, play it to the ground, stop for awhile, pick it up and go again. Not to mention the mods are incredible and done by people who share their incredible talent for free (as opposed to say The Sims crowd which likes to charge for a lot of things).

LoL, any news you could share with us?

I have CIV IV as the best game ever on my subjective list, so I will be buying both Elemental and Civ V no matter what state they are in.