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[BUG] [0.25] Losing the ability to create new buildings in old cities

October 22, 2009 7:28:28 PM from Elemental ForumsElemental Forums

Just loaded up .25, so far only one CTD after about 100 turns.

It seems that with every new city my sovereign creates I lose the ability to create new buildings in the previous cities.  These poor stunted hamlets never have the opportunity to be all they can be.

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eyalcohen
Rishkith
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Reply #1 October 22, 2009 10:56:19 PM
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I don't have to create a new city to have this problem. Seems to occur whenever I go back in to add new buildings after already having a build queue.

IN the picture you should see that I should have two available build spots next to the two huts by the farm. However I only have the option to demolish buildings.

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Reply #2 October 22, 2009 11:00:51 PM
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The same has happened to me.

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Rishkith
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Reply #3 October 23, 2009 12:31:31 AM
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Interestingly enough my last game didn't have this problem. Is it related to the fact that I turned off all the 3D graphics processing settings and got the game to run at a reasonable speed?

It could also be that I updated the game right before.

I'll be running some more games but it bears worth giving a try and reporting back again.

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Reply #4 October 23, 2009 2:34:38 AM
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Saw the same issue

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Saturn2888
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Reply #5 October 23, 2009 3:34:30 AM
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Happens after you build your first buildings. I could not figure out a way to get it fixed.

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Reply #6 October 23, 2009 4:28:33 AM
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I just figured out more about this bug. Look at this picture:

I captured a town and built another and sometime between those two events, I was able to build again, but not since. It was cool actually being able to build again though, haha. I hope Rishkith has more info.

 

Also, I think the server's time just went an hour forward because I definitely posted this at 3:34am.

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Reply #7 October 23, 2009 9:07:42 AM
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I've seen this too.

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Reply #8 October 23, 2009 9:25:06 AM
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I think the code logic for build mode says something like

if(availablePlots > 0) ;// display all available buildings as normal

else ; // only display the remove building button

 

where it should be using "availablePlots > 0 || availableSpacesOnClaimedPlots > 0" or some such

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Reply #9 October 23, 2009 9:28:36 AM
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The original post isn't quite correct, though almost.

The bug is that once a single building is placed on an empty plot and you leave the construction menu, the game counts that plot as "full" and does not allow you to build anything else on it even if there is room.

For a quick test, start a game and queue 2 houses, each on a different plot (map grid). When you leave the construction menu it'll only show the demolish option and won't let you place anything else.

It doesn't have anything to do with starting new cities, though. In your first city leave one plot completely empty, then start a new city. You'll still be able to build in the empty plot of your first.

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Reply #10 October 23, 2009 10:36:23 AM
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I have encountered this as well...

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Reply #11 October 23, 2009 10:42:59 AM
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There are actually 2 known issues ATM...

1. Canceling a Building from the queue will add the plot back, but not allow you to build upon it.

2. The situation that Annatar's explained

We'll be looking into these for an update build next week.

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Reply #12 October 23, 2009 1:16:41 PM
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Yeah, it keeps happening all the time, quite sad, considering the amount of resources present, just waiting to be taken .

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Reply #13 October 23, 2009 3:33:21 PM
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Quoting BoogieBac,
reply 11
There are actually 2 known issues ATM...

1. Canceling a Building from the queue will add the plot back, but not allow you to build upon it.

2. The situation that Annatar's explained

We'll be looking into these for an update build next week.

Since the patch and eliminating all my video settings I didn't have a repeat of situation number 2 last night.

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Reply #14 October 24, 2009 12:45:19 AM
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Quoting BoogieBac,
reply 11
There are actually 2 known issues ATM...

1. Canceling a Building from the queue will add the plot back, but not allow you to build upon it.

2. The situation that Annatar's explained

We'll be looking into these for an update build next week.

 

I'll add:

3. Unable to add new buildings to a city after queing the Palace improvement.

 

There are work arounds to this. Advancing turn and selecting build on another city seemed to allow me to go back to building in one case. I've confirmed this bug in a few games. Build 4 or 5 building on a new city then build a palace. You're unable to place anything in the remaining tiles and are only left with the deconstruct option.

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Reply #15 October 24, 2009 2:46:06 AM
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My work around attempt didn't work in my last game. I believe I might be able to work around it if the city grows to the next size. I just know that sometimes I've been able to build afterward getting this problem.

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Reply #16 October 24, 2009 6:58:24 AM
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OH! Maybe I was able to build again because the cities leveled up.

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Reply #17 October 25, 2009 9:09:09 PM
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Quoting Saturn2888,
reply 16
OH! Maybe I was able to build again because the cities leveled up.

I noticed that in order to build ANYTHING apart from first two buildings I HAD to choose shacks as the starting buildings, assuming I wanted my city to level up. That is a balance issue imho. Sure, I shouldn't be able to reach lvl 3/4/5/... w/o investing in shacks, but not being able to reach level 2 w/o building only shacks!?

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Reply #18 November 25, 2009 7:03:05 AM
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Haha. Probably a bug.

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