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Reply to Q+A regarding Star Control and Paul and Fred in Star Control Journals StarControl Forums

[quote who="Astrobia" reply="445" id="3714645"] I want to have respect and your side of things but I can't because veiling your argument under the guise of wanting to understand the point of view of the other side is pretty much the single most disingenuous thing you can do in any debate, especially in an open online discussion. [/quote] Wanting to understand other people is disingenious? Really? What else would we be doing here? There's cheerleading and trolling, but i

Reply to Q+A regarding Star Control and Paul and Fred in Star Control Journals StarControl Forums

[quote who="Frogboy" reply="323" id="3713913"] Stardock isn’t looking to block their game. We just can’t have games, using our mark or creating confusion with their activities. All such issues can be resolved through licensing of our marks [/quote] Stardock was perfectly okay with them using all of the original races even in response to the initial public announcement of GOTP. P&F have already stopped using the Star Control mark. What

Reply to Q+A regarding Star Control and Paul and Fred in Star Control Journals StarControl Forums

[quote who="Astrobia" reply="306" id="3713868"] 2: Instead of agreeing to reasonable terms PF went nuclear and started DMCA's (which they will probably get fined for as their process for doing so was illegal) and effectively challenged the Star Control trademark forcing Stardock to respond with legal action to protect the license and their already in development game Star Control: Origins [/quote] The DMCA is not "nuclear" - it's a very common legal

Reply to Q+A regarding Star Control and Paul and Fred in Star Control Journals StarControl Forums

[quote who="Jafo" reply="287" id="3713696"] No, what is [possibly] turning people away is the wealth of uninformed FUD associated with a legal case that is totally unconnected to the people posting the FUD. [/quote] I really don't think it's the FUD turning me away from Stardock, but feel free to correct me if my facts are wrong: Stardock announced P&F were going to be working on a new game that continued the Ur-Quan plotline, and that it would includ

Reply to Stardock response to Paul and Fred [UPDATE] in Star Control StarControl Forums

[quote who="Frogboy" reply="673" id="3713157"] @GMOrz Are you now arguing the 1988 agreement is in effect? [/quote] Oh, I didn't realize the 1998 agreement wasn't in effect ^^; [quote who="bleybourne" reply="672" id="3713135"] you can't do that in a contract. (...) Yet another way that contract is full errors. [/quote] Ahh, thanks. I had assumed since there was a contract assigning rights, that those right must be a real thing. I didn'

Reply to Q+A regarding Star Control and Paul and Fred in Star Control Journals StarControl Forums

[quote who="Frogboy" reply="230" id="3712729"] You've seen this copyright? Can you share it? What story in particular? Do you have a link to this story that has copyright protection? You clearly have access to documents the rest of us don't have. Feel free to share them. The lengths you will go to interpret things to fit your biases Elestan are quite astounding to me. [/quote] p. 62: The Reic

Reply to Stardock response to Paul and Fred [UPDATE] in Star Control StarControl Forums

[quote who="Frogboy" reply="669" id="3713118"] Some of their fans have...very generous interpretations of what copyright can cover in video games and Star Control in particular. For example, the Arilou are in Star Control:Origins. You can’t copyright a name nor can you copyright ideas or descriptions. You can’t even copyright a recipe let alone a timeline or species descriptions. Our artistic interpretation of the Arilou will necessarily be different from what was

Reply to Stardock response to Paul and Fred [UPDATE] in Star Control StarControl Forums

[quote who="SportsBraThief" reply="657" id="3712242"] Why can't THEY work on a direct sequel to Star Control II while Star Dock works on the Origin story? [/quote] That was basically the settlement that P&F proposed: https://www.dogarandkazon.com/blog/2018/3/24/nope-and-nope Brad can presumably speak to why Star Dock declined that settlement.

Reply to Stardock response to Paul and Fred [UPDATE] in Star Control StarControl Forums

[quote who="Frogboy" reply="644" id="3712144"] Paul and Fred chose to promote their new game as the "true sequel to Star Control". They even used the (R) (which kills any fair use argument even if they weren't explicitly forbidden from using the marks by contract even if the term of the agreement expired). They have refused to stop doing this. [/quote] They seem to have rather explicitly stopped doing this? [quote] They also

Reply to Q+A regarding Star Control and Paul and Fred in Star Control Journals Stardock.net Forums

[quote who="Inferno83" reply="219" id="3712077"] Just look at the quotes carefully and what they state to be the creators of - Star Control Universe. That is lore centric and is different from the definition of creating the Star Control Game. [/quote] From wikipedia: "When the original creators released the source code of the 3DO version as open source under the GPL in 2002, an open-source project was created aiming to crea

Reply to Q+A regarding Star Control and Paul and Fred in Star Control Journals StarControl Forums

[quote who="Frogboy" reply="217" id="3712056"] It’s not about insulting or not. It is the ridiculous nature of suggesting Galactic Civilizations borrowed heavily from Star Control. No one who plays GalCiv is going to think Star Control. They have almost nothing in common. [/quote] It's pretty ridiculous to claim that Paul and Fred aren't the creators of Star Control, despite referring to themselves that way for two decades without objection, and having their name

Reply to Q+A regarding Star Control and Paul and Fred in Star Control Journals StarControl Forums

[quote who="Frogboy" reply="206" id="3711016"] One thing that someone brought to my attention: Reduced 80% Original 843 x 380 The sheer arrogance to suggest that Galactic Civilizations "borrowed heavily" from St