I really don't think Macs are expensive. Sure, they're a heck of a lot more expensive than 'build your own' type boxes but then so are quality systems from Sony, IBM, etc... iMac G4s, eMac's and iBook are all very low priced for their value, imo. Otoh, there's nothing wrong with a used or refurb, either... especially if you just want to get your feet wet and see if you like it. Since Macs have great resale value you can usually make back a good chunk of your expense if you don't like it
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My ADSL is 1500/256 and is incredibly stable in my area... Quite a bit more desirable than the unstable Cable offerings here.
Hey, hey... I'm a mac user but don't paint me with the same brush!
I must say I'm VERY impressed with Safari. I'd heard rumblings of an Apple branded browser but I was expecting more along the lines of simply a revamped Mozilla/Chimera/Phoenix. I was pleasantly surprised to see Apple had chosen khtml as the basis for their app instead. It's tiny and has some very useful features I hadn't seen in a browser before.
Well, paxx, I'm not a Christian but I'm also not shy... I just usually don't see the point in debating online about something I don't believe in. My one true god is Steve Jobs. lol j/k (I might repent for a shiny NeXT Cube, though...)
I agree... Landover Baptist sounds perfect! "What Would Betty Bowers Do?"
Running OS X here, exclusively now...
Actually, I have NO IDEA what's going on with NeXus as I haven't been involved with Winstep since the early Spring of 2001. So you'll have to direct that question over to them now...
Actually, I've had a NeXT style Dock and menu system mostly completed for ObjectBar for over a year now. (sheepish grin) Since moving to Macs to run OPENSTEP v6 (Mac OS X, in other words) I keep selling my Windows system everytime I build one up and have never finished it. Now that ObjectDock is finally out and looking good maybe I'll see what I can come up with, including some nice NeXT icons for XP. OTOH, I hope my ObjectDesktop subscription hasn't expired yet. <img sr
Chimera or OmniWeb under OS X.
That's kind of odd Doreen as it's worked here on all my Macs since the original OS X 10.0 release. When your clock is in the dock, do you see the little 'triangle indicator' below it to indicate that it's running? You might also want to check your Clock's preferences and verify that it is set to display "in the dock", which is normally the default setting.
Actually Doreen, the OS X clock DOES work in the dock. You just have to make sure that it's running.
Ok, Brad... it's about darn time this came out! Very, very nice... not as nice as the real thing but great stuff nonetheless.
Paxx, the fact that you may be tied to whatever Windows software you use as a 'power user' doesn't mean that there aren't equally useful apps for the Mac. Plenty of mac users are power users and they get along without missing a thing from Windows, and if a really obscure need arises they can always install X Windows and find a *NIX app. Being Windows compatible is not the answer... it certainly hurt OS/2 a lot more than it helped, IMO.
That is indeed VERY TRUE about OS/2. I remember suffering from culture shock when I finally had to abandon it for NT4... there was just so much missing that it wasn't funny. Actually, I think MS and Apple could still do well to re-visit some old innovations there. OTOH, a lot of the more useful features and traits found in OS X are only there because of it's NeXT heritage. I have to wonder what the computing landscape would look like today if it had been OS/2 and NeXTSTEP that went
Frogboy, I find the current Power Macs to be over-priced for what many would use them for but, as I'd mentioned previously the PM's have a much better resale value. I've got a couple Power Mac's here that are on the verge of hitting the two year old mark. I could easily sell them for $1,000-$1400 which more than makes up for any 'over the top' price I might have paid when new, imo. OTOH, I don't think the new iMacs are expensive at all, especially when you compare them to the recent Gateway AIO
I've found OS X to be more reliable here than XP. Don't get me wrong, XP is generally very stable but I still occasionally see a blue screen or other oddity when I use it, which is rarely now. OTOH, I haven't had one crash under OS X since maybe the 2nd week of release back in April 2001. Personally, I love the iApps. I haven't seen anything as intuitive and slick as iTunes 3.0, iMovie, or iDVD for the PC at the same price - free. ...and, yup, most Macs probably are more expens
I think you'll find there are zealots, OS bigots, and the occasional outright idiotic fringe group in existence for just about every remotely popular operating system/ environment available. Some people tend to be the same about their computers as they are about everything else in life - cars, sex, religion, Star Wars, whatever - their choice just *has* to be the 'one true way'. (Personally I think Linux zealots, and the few straggling OS/2 users left are mucho, mucho worse than any Mac zealot I
I think you're probably referring to the OS X system feature known as "font smoothing". It's not that the font is so different but rather just that it's displayed as anti-aliased text.
You can get a 'fairly' close 'look' using a wide variety of skins. Some of them better than others, of course. ObjectBar is the best app for doing the Finder menu bar along the top. There's nothing to give you a true 'feel' of OS X, though. Which is a shame because that's the best part. The look is just frosting.
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I doubt we'll ever see an OS X for x86. It doesn't make business sense for Apple, a mostly hardware based company, to do so... If Apple were to ever adopt Intel/AMD cpu's it would no doubt still be running inside proprietary boxes. There'd be no OS X to slap on a Dell, for instance. As far as configurability goes, I don't think there's anything I can't upgrade in my Power Mac that I would have normally upgraded in my old Wintel PC. Hard drives, memory, video, audio, CPU upgrades, etc..
Frankly, I can't imagine running Linux as a desktop OS on a daily basis. It's certainly come a long way but it's got quite a bit of catching up to do, IMNSHO, especially in the area of mature, polished applications. It's in dire need of a standard, world class UI, too.
What ever one thinks of the system prices (I don't mind paying possible higher prices for my Macs as, frankly, I find they give me the best computing experience I've ever had) I think Jaguar is more than worth the $129 price tag. This isn't just a simple update. It's got some rather wonderful new features. If they were asking that much just for bug fixes and simple updates, then I might moan about it.
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