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KFC POSTS: Christ never quoted from those “extra” books which was a big criteria in the formation and acceptance of the canon by the Christians. KFC POSTS: ok, show me. Show me where Jesus quoted from any of those books you are referring and the ones I call "extra." Give me chapter and verse. I can show you quite easily where he quoted or referred to the writing of the many writers of the OT. Also show me where the Jews accepted these books a

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Terpfan, I am so thankful for your writing this excellent, informative piece. Yours, and everyone's comments, have been helpful beyond measure as there is nothing better than gaining understanding through the experiences of others. Now, we have a better and easier sense (and getting closer to having peace) with making the decison. For us, I think the advice of "examine your motives" and join "for the right reason" clinched it all.

Reply to Believers Question #3 in Religion JoeUser Forums

Yes, but and this is a big but.....we must not overlook the very next verse that says: "And such were some of you: but you were washed, you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of the of the Lord Jesus........" We all sin. We all make mistakes. This section was a warning against moral laxity. Paul did not want Christianity confused with the sects that permitted such things. People whose lifestyles exhibit the fruit of wickedness show

Reply to Believers Question #3 in Religion JoeUser Forums

One of the first things one has to inderstand about the 10 Commandments is that they were not 10 suggestions. They are God's divine will. It is important to understand them in light of the OT in which they were given and then in the NT and how our Lord lived and taught the Commandments setting an example of total surrender to the Divine Will. For Jesus as a man it was always first about His Heavenly Fahter's will. I know there are popular arguments that Jesus supposedly repudiated the Ten w

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Terpfan1980, many thanks for writing this article. I am a parent of an 18 year old who is considering signing himself into the National Guard. We've already had a couple meetings with the local recruiter, who seems to be a very pleasant and knowledgable person. Quite honestly, I am still quite unsettled on this topic. I want to advise for the best and am wondering what you, Hadeon, ParaTed2k and Dan Greene would tell a parent like me about the National Guard and whether or not it's a good thing

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So is it also Catholic teaching that sex outside of baby making is a sin too? When women are unable or become too old to bear children do Catholics stop having sex? I think a good rule of thumb when asking questions that have to do with sexual morality is to ask what would God have me do according to the gold standards He has given us in the Ten Commandments. Remember that everything that He has given us is for our Good. Catholicism teaches

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lulapilgrim, maybe you could give me the KJV version of this passage. My NIV traslation appears to be specifically talking about prostitution as being sexual immorality, but I don't see masturbation or 'spilling seed' Chapter 6 tells us of sins that exclude from the kingdom of heaven and especially of the evil of fornication. My Douay Rheims has 1Cor.6:9-10 as "Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornica

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So we as "new" Christians are not bound by the OT laws? The New and everlasting covenant of Christianity is a completion (fulfillment) of the Old Law or covenant. So, yes, we are still bound by the Ten Commandments revealed by God to His people through Moses. Those Commandments were the essential Law for the Israelites and they continue to be such for the early Church and remain so for Catholics today. Actually, they'll remain valid until the end of time

Reply to Believers Question #1 in Religion JoeUser Forums

And why can't there be no debate, wouldn't that be how you learn other people's point of view? I'm just wondering! That was my initial reaction as well. The post that QOD deleted had to do with Theistic Evolution which is akin to the Gap theory. How that would turn her off from Christianity is beyond me, but then again, like she says, it's her sandbox.

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So what about masterbation? Yes or no? If you are going by God's will, the short answer is no. Genesis 38:9-10 tells us that GOd killed Onan after spilling his seed "becasue he did a detestable thing." QUESTION OF THE DAY POSTS: Is it just and old cleanliness thing too? I'm just confused on what applies today and what doesn't and why. God's prohibition of masturbation applies to today. God created us and gave us the

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EMPEROR OF ICE CREAM POSTS: As I think you'll recall, he was rather explicit as to the role of women in the Church - that they should be humble and keep silent. 1Cr 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 1Cr 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. ---------------

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KFC POSTS: Actually Lula and I are an example of two that actually get along smashingly well. Sure thing. I'd say like "soul sisters" in that we love Sacred Scripture and discussing it too. (Smiley face)!!! The key is that although we have doctrinal differences, we greatly respect each other....and that's something that is earned.

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LITTLE-WHIP POSTS: Pharisees. The both of ya. Actually, we are sisters in Christ.

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KFC POSTS: Lula....this was not about the Gk Septuagint which came later. This piece was about the OT canon put together by Ezra.... before the Septuagint. This piece was also not about the CC version of the extra books which again came later around 150-25 BC. I was thinking of maybe dealing with both the NT Canon and the Apocrypha later. KFC, I guess I rushed the boat then. I didn’t think so though since the Septuagint is part of the OT

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LARRY KUPERMAN POSTS: As referenced in our last debate, Jesus knew about the Essenes Could you tell me how Jesus knew about the Essenes? LARRY KUPERMAN POSTS: First, parts of the Torah were still being written then and secondly the Talmud was being written at this time. What can you tell me about the Talmud? I understand that there are blasphemies vs. Christ in the Talmud and this has been known for centuries.

Reply to Believers Question #3 in Religion JoeUser Forums

The whole of Leviticus chapter 15 deals with legal purity which were instituted by God in order to give the people a horror of carnal impurities. The beginning of the chapter deals with men spilling their seed which God forbids. The 7 day period of the woman is a time that she is to refrain from sexual relations. Ever hear the saying "cleanliness is next to Godliness"? Being pure was then and still is required for people truly dedicated t

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KFC POSTS on Feb. 28: The bible is a remarkable collection of 66 books united by a common theme of God's redeeming love for humanity. Just the fact that these books were collected, agreed upon and accepted as the Word of God is itself a miracle of God's providence. To be fair some have questioned some of the OT books at one time or another. ------------------------------------------------------------- I would point out that Protest

Reply to Believers Question #1 in Religion JoeUser Forums

In rereading my post I see I made an error in the last paragraph. The sentence should read: As far as I am concerned, truth all along has come out of Genesis and I'm not going to ignore God who was there in favor of some FALLIBLE ideas of modern man who was not. God is truly omnipotent and He surely could create anything in any shape, manner and time-span that so pleases Him. He changed the water to wine in less than seconds. He multiplied the fish and loaves of bread in nano-seco

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I see that the columns got misaligned. I'll try again. On Day 1-------------------God created-----------------------Light On Day 2-----------------------------------------------------Water and Sky On Day 3----------------------------------------------Land and vegetation On Day 4----------------------------------------------------Sun, moon and stars On Day 5-------------------------------------

Reply to Believers Question #1 in Religion JoeUser Forums

Good question, Question of the Day. God exists in a state of timelessness, "I am who am". Ex. 3:14. I believe there is only one God--the Divine Trinity---the inifnite First Cause who created all that exists (from nothing "ex nihilo") including space, time and matter. God primarily instituted Creation for the revelation of His Perfection and 2ndly, so that His creatures, the angels humans could share eternally with Him.

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SEAN CONNORS POSTS: get with the program or ya will be removed lula...thank you:) Sean, evidently, by this ultimatum, you don't want me in this discussion unless I agree with everything you say. Too bad, because give and take dialogue and discussion on such a vast and complex topic as climate change is a way we learn from one another. But you know it all, I can tell. So carry on without me. Bye.

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Draginol, I've just read a piece by Mark Alexander and he said that "there is no scientifically established correlation between global warming trends and acclelration of the greenhouse effect due to human production of CO2---only broad speculation".

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KFC POSTS: It's funny we want to be forgiven but it can be very hard for us to forgive others. For those who aren't particularly religious, the law of nature requires that we conduct ourselves towards others as we would have them conduct themselves toward us. For those having a hard time forgiving (or as the saying goes--burying the hatchet ), we should recognize that it is a squirmish within our nature between the flesh and the sp

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Thanks for the link. I've heard of the National Religious Partnership for the Environment and remember as far back as 1993 wondering who the Catholic members are only to find out that they were all liberal or dissident Catholics. At the time I think they were trying to address the issues of poverty and the environment and working with the UN. I'm very sceptical of the group becasue I think the doom and gloom tenets of radical environmentalism (or what

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"And Jesus said, "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do." KFC, you did a great job explaining verse 34, underlines and all!! To add to your comments, we can see how Christ teaches and models even as His dies on the Cross. Look at the way Jesus addresses the Father by distinguishing 2 parts. First, His simple request: "Father, forgive them." and 2nd---the excuse He offers, "for they know not what they do." Here, w