Question for those who know about drinking problems

No...the liver doesn't get 'used to it'...it is eventually destroyed through such abuse as 'a drinking problem'...

My question is this: Is it posssible to distroy your Liver by drinking to much?

Yes...It's called "cirrhosis of the liver"

Can it be possible that this person can possibly be drinking in order to stay alive because his Liver is use to it?

No...It's killing him.

Here's some Info http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=18915

he might have another problem. I forgot what its called, but some people's body can't process glucose (I think thats it) right and some strange smell is always eminating from their body. Just because someone smells doesn't mean they drink, they might just need to take a shower.

Now the glassy eyes. I don't know what that means. It could be he is abusing another substance.

I was thinking I was wrong about the glassy eyes and the odor he has. It not a funk of the arm pits but more of a... I don't know.... wierd odor.

I would ask him but it just so happens that he is my boss.

I just think something wrong with him. I won't bother me so much if I was working a regular job but it not a regular job. (Security)

I don't know guys... I am thinking about quitting.
But I can't... I need the money.

Just a thought, if he's only your supervisor, why not discuss it with his immediate boss. Specially if it is impacting your desire to work there. If he's someone you're concerned about, friend, etc., I think you should discuss it with him.

well, I bearly know the guy so I don't think I can say anything.

The company has other sites so I think I should just ask for a transfer.

are there other positions where you work under which you'd have a different boss?

Liver stores fat inside it each time a person drinks, evenally killing liver ( and the person with that liver ) when normally it never stores fat inside it.

#8 by Sir Travis the Crazy - 1/21/2004 7:34:26 PM are there other positions where you work under which you'd have a different boss?

Not at the site I am on right now.

I am basically under this guy who, by the way, happened to freeze the Fire panel because instead of pressing the proper buttons, he push others


He has the experience to to the job but apparently does not apply it. Also I think he was drunk at the time when he pressed the wrong buttons to make a announcement to the people in the building.


Since he pressed the wrong buttons, the announcement was not made... there were children in the biulding... and a baby.

drinking in fact is one of the main causes of liver disease and death related to it, Hepatitis C being the main one.

The liver provides many different chemicals used in the function of various internal organs such as the Kidneys, Spleen, Bile-duct, Bowel, Brain and complete digestion tract. Which can lead to failure of these in part or in whole.

Fibrosis of the Liver will lead to Cirrhosis death if left unchecked and can cause Cancer of the Liver which leads to death or transplant.

Acidic acid crystallizes in the joints where it settles and cause constant joint pain, you feel run down to the point that you wish you would just die and get it over with.

Yet because of the chemical imbalances in your body your mind is constantly racing when not totally numbed. Add any previous injuries to bones, joints or soft tissues and you just pile more pain on to of it all...

Something else about the liver is it can heal itself if given the chance, they can take a damaged liver and splice part of a healthy liver from a donor to it and if not rejected it will heal.

For Hepatitis C there is a treatment which is now being seen as a possible cure in a large percent of the people who are put on it. The process for gaining access to it is kind of arduous with the blood testing, re-testing, liver biopsy(s) and so forth, but at least there is now a real option of good health available to those with it...

This person you know, and everyone else who drinks to much really should learn about just how much drinking taxes the liver and the rest of the body. Cirrhosis leading to total liver failure, or to Liver Cancer which ends at the same point will in fact kill almost every time and they are not transplanting Livers into people who are considered high risk returns for transplant or failure because of their own actions (continued drinking)...

anyway....

Diabetics can actually give off an odor like they have been drinking when their sugar levels are all out of wack also....

It will also affect the eyes, balance and even speech at some point.

Is he diabetic or do you know for a fact that it is that he is drinking?

Yes, do you in fact know that he is a drinker? Another problem that can give the symptons you are decribing is kidney failure. People with end stage kidney disease emit a musty/ urine-like oder due to the urine crystalls seeping thru the skin. (These crystals are normally filtered thru the kidney) Glassy/sheen-like eyes can also go along with kidney failure AND liver failure. If he is in fact a steady alcohol drinker, it will surely (if it alreasy hasn't) take its toll on his liver. As mentioned by IPlural, diabetics can emit an oder, but that oder is mainly smelled at the mouth area, and it's a "fruity" oder. A tell tale clue for kidney failure is yellowing of the white part of the eyes. Is this present. If it is, he has a failing liver due to either drinking or contracted hepatitis. In any case, sounds like the guy has a problem, and if you don't see any evidence of treatment, then he's in denial.

Crissy your reminded me it is Uric Acid that collects not Acidic Acid (rather redundant)

Uric? hmmmm, I forget now how to spell it...



Jaundice (yellowing of the eyes and skin) nasty...

Well, I smelled his drink of "cranberry juice" sitting on the desk after many other guards basically told me he drinks.

After what you said IPlural, it is possible that he has diabetes. He slurs his speech (piticullary on Sundays) and his eye are wet. One time I thought he was upset because of what happened at the fire panel a few day before when he started running for a set of keys that were in the fire panel.



My Mom says he is someone 'baby' and he is going to stay so I better be careful about who I talk to about it.

I'll just ask for a transfer.

So is it possible that Liver failure can cause a person to have an odor?

Why do I keep capitalizing Liver?




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yeah, it affects the kidneys and other ograns, the liver really is one of the keys to the internal workings of the human body, though many people do not really know it.

the only reason I ever learned anything about it is because of some medical problems otherwise my mind would be a blank on the subject...

I just can't get over the odor thing.

might sound stupid, but breath through your mouth and eat pepermints when it gets to being to much...

it can help some

I'm an RN, but I really can't add much to what's already been said here about alcohol and its effects on the liver. It's all been pretty well covered here.

I also lost my only brother a little over 10 years ago, and his death was at least partially due to the fact that he was an extremely high-functioning alcoholic.

While your co-worker might be "somebody's baby," your concerns about his well-being really should be reported to your superiors. If he has already made some mistakes on the job, possibly due to his being drunk on the job, you bear a heavy burden, but one that cannot be ignored. I hate to sound harsh, but if you keep quiet and then someone is injured or otherwise badly affected by his actions, it's gonna be a hell of a thing living with the knowledge that you could have prevented it .

You could also be doing him a very big favor...perhaps he's diabetic and doesn't realize it. Or perhaps being faced with some kind of intervention might finally make him admit that he has a problem, and he'll do something to change it.

Just present it to your superiors in a way that makes it clear that you're concerned about this man's well-being and the well-being of everyone around you...make sure they understand that you're not doing it to be mean, petty, vindictive, or any other assorted negative emotion. It's clear to me that you're concerned for all the right reasons, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Great Advice Jinn Fizz

Yes Jinn Fizz, it is important to me to try to find some help for the guy. I think he has the experience to do the job.

Well, tomorrow I am going to the main office to fully explain myself.


The only thing bothering me know is the body odor thing. I am trying to convince someone at work who knows him longer to ask him about it.

JTB, Its like smoking, the liver don't need alcohol and so don't your longs need smoke/nicotine. They do destroy them tought...

Just thought I would ad 1 thing. Glassy eyes and a "funky" odor are common symptoms of smoking opium. The stench will stick with you all day. Its a really odd stench also. Sorry to jump in now but I just had a hunch. I am no expert but I also believe that opium calms the DT's from alcohol and other stuff.