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Startbutton disappeared after update.

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March 17, 2023 4:06:52 AM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums

I had a Windows update yesterday and after that the Start button doesn't show anymore   

-Tried different settings in WB and start11 to No avail.

Windows 11 Core 22H2 (22621.ni_release.220506-1250)
WindowBlinds 11.01 (012 x64 - Windows 11 Edition) - 64 bit OS

Window titlebar blur features are enabled on this operating system

Wblind.dll 2023/01/17 18:25:18
Wblind64.dll 2023/01/17 18:25:22
Wbsrv.dll 2023/01/17 18:25:33
WB11Config.exe 2023/01/17 18:25:29
Wbload.dll 2023/01/17 18:25:38
Screen10.exe 2023/01/17 18:25:45

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Start11 version 1.41

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Reply #1 March 17, 2023 4:21:33 AM
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Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Does the issue appear if you apply Stardock's WB theme like Diamond etc?

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Reply #2 March 17, 2023 4:32:17 AM
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Which Windows update, Andy?

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Reply #3 March 17, 2023 4:37:20 AM
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Which Windows update, Andy?
I posted the information I have up in the post... Is there anything else I can/should specify then What and where do I find the Info ?

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Reply #4 March 17, 2023 4:38:21 AM
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2023-03 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5023706)

Updated 23 03 17

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Reply #5 March 17, 2023 4:41:14 AM
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Quoting basj,
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Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Does the issue appear if you apply Stardock's WB theme like Diamond etc?

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Huh   -It SHOWS With Diamond...

-BUT it worked perfectly before the update...

My Start buttons are OFTEN quite long...

-This must be sorted or most of my Blindes are F'd up.  

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Reply #6 March 17, 2023 4:42:05 AM
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2023-03 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5023706)

Ok. That's Moment 2. Which version of Start11 do you have installed? 1.4.11 or 1.4.2 beta?

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Reply #7 March 17, 2023 4:43:32 AM
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Quoting neone6,
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2023-03 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5023706)



Ok. That's Moment 2. Which version of Start11 do you have installed?

1.41

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Reply #8 March 17, 2023 4:45:44 AM
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Tested... NONE of My Blinds startbuttons show.

-Set to Medium Taskbar, Left aligned Start Button, Centered taskbar buttons.

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Reply #9 March 17, 2023 4:45:49 AM
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Try updating to 1.4.2 beta, if basj agrees.

Maybe because the start button is hardcoded to 48x48 pixels.

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Reply #10 March 17, 2023 4:46:05 AM
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It might be of that over size start button which Neil did mentioned that it will be limited to 48x48 pixel. Not sure if it will shrink down or cut off.

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Reply #11 March 17, 2023 4:47:06 AM
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Try as a test put in a 48x48 pixel and see if the Start button appear.

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Reply #12 March 17, 2023 4:47:39 AM
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Quoting basj,
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It might be of that over size start button which Neil did mentioned that it will be limited to 48x48 pixel. Not sure if it will shrink down or cut off.

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We agree. It won't resize.

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Reply #13 March 17, 2023 4:48:01 AM
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Quoting basj,
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It might be of that over size start button which Neil did mentioned that it will be limited to 48x48 pixel. Not sure if it will shrink down or cut off.

-There must be HEAPS of Blinds with Longer & bigger startbuttons out there...

Seriously... ALL my Blinds are going to be USELESS now...surely this can't be happening and MUST be fixed!!??

-I won't be able to sell a single Skin if it isn't sorted.

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Reply #14 March 17, 2023 4:50:27 AM
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It's my ONLY Income !....... This is INSANE, Terrible and a death blow to my whole world !

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Reply #15 March 17, 2023 4:51:56 AM
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Its Windows 11 thing. Not sure if Neil have something up his sleeve to make it okay again. I have forwarded your problem/question to Stardock Support Team for their assistance. Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates. We appreciate your feedback and patience.

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Reply #16 March 17, 2023 4:52:57 AM
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It's my ONLY Income !

As a friend, I'd suggest redesigning your start buttons since MS won't redesign Windows11...

Update your Start11 in any case.

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Reply #17 March 17, 2023 4:54:20 AM
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Quoting DrJBHL,
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Quoting neone6,
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It's my ONLY Income !



As a friend, I'd suggest redesigning your start buttons since MS won't redesign Windows11...

Surely Neil could come up with a work-around... He created WB11 And Start11 for god's sake....

I can't re design and RE-upload ALL hundreds of Win 10 skins !!!???

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Reply #18 March 17, 2023 4:56:20 AM
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This will render 20-40% of all uploaded skins useless (If you want the startbutton)

SERIOUSLY        

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Reply #19 March 17, 2023 4:56:58 AM
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Surely Neil could come up with a work-around... He created WB11 And Start11 for god's sake....

Hardcoded...means it can't be changed. Update your Start11, in any case.

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Reply #20 March 17, 2023 4:57:44 AM
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Then this IS really the END.

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Reply #21 March 17, 2023 4:58:41 AM
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Actually the width limit is 55 pixels.  We added a new Windows 11 new start button section to WB11 for this specific reason.

The next update to WB will make the buttons shrink to fit that space whilst maintaining aspect ratio.

Unfortunately this is a limitation of using the Windows 11 native taskbar.

BUT if you use Start11 1.42 or later (currently in beta) and have enhanced taskbar enabled this limitation is removed as we have greater control.  That said if you have just one or two monitors this is allowed, if you have more than 2 monitors then only the primary monitor has a bigger start button.

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Reply #22 March 17, 2023 5:02:01 AM
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BUT if you use Start11 1.42 or later (currently in beta) and have enhanced taskbar enabled this limitation is removed as we have greater control.  That said if you have just one or two monitors this is allowed, if you have more than 2 monitors then only the primary monitor has a bigger start button.
NEIL!   NOW we're talking... That sounds promising.

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Reply #23 March 17, 2023 5:19:36 AM
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Neil, roughly, when will WB 11.2 be available?

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Reply #24 March 17, 2023 5:26:57 AM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
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BUT if you use Start11 1.42 or later (currently in beta) and have enhanced taskbar enabled this limitation is removed as we have greater control. 
The button shows in the Beta, but Mouseover or Pressing it does Nothing

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Reply #25 March 17, 2023 6:17:20 AM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
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BUT if you use Start11 1.42 or later (currently in beta) and have enhanced taskbar enabled this limitation is removed as we have greater control. 

The button shows in the Beta, but Mouseover or Pressing it does Nothing

Hmm, it should be.

Can you give an example of a skin with the issue please?

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