So I bought Elemental at release, or pre-ordered even, I can't remember at this point. I didn't like it, and never played it that much. Then Elemental Fallen Enchantress came along...for free, thanks for that Frogboy. I played it for a bit, but life distracted me, and I did not get back to it. Then this FE: Legendary Heroes (LH) comes along.

At this point, I just wonder do I have to play Elemental Fallen Enchantress (FE) first, then LH, or is FE contained in LH? Yeah, I am confused.

Thanks for the info. I will wait for the 1.4 patch.

Whoa whoa whoaaa!! Hold it right there Frogboy - don't drop a titillating tidbit like that, and then don't give some details. The new game that is being worked on, are we thinking RPG? Stratetgy? Tactical? FPS-Stealther? Rogue-like? Action-RPG? Elemental take on Dota? Elemental: Beach Volleyball? What are we thinking here?

I guess I fall into the give the finger attitude and say embrace Elemental.

Every game you guys release in the next five to ten years will probably be pre-faced with something like "2010...Elemental:Ware of Magic...blah blah.. number of design flaws and bugs...blah blah".

However if you release a sequel to Elemental with all the design improvements and knowledge gained in making a fun fantasy game then it becomes your franchise again. And Elemental becomes the growing universe that had it's early growing pains that slowly matured over time. 

Elemental II: Destiny's Collide

Elemental III: No Sub-title it's earned it's place

Otherwise drop the Elemental franchise and go more the shadowrun tilt where magic and technology collide

Elemental: The intended version

Maybe do something to tie it in with the galactic civilizations brand? Make it into magic civilizations or fantasy civilizations or legendary civilizations (or elemental civilizations even)?

You'd get Fantasy civilizations - WOM, Fantasy civilizations - FE, Fantasy civilizations - LH and so on.

Regardless, I was quite pissed when WOM came out and sucked (i'd really looked forward to it and was therefore extremely disappointed) but you guys did right by your customers afterwards and I think LH is a great game. I still buy all the DLC to support Stardock even though I don't play it a whole lot anymore.

I'll buy Galciv3 and I'll buy a new elemental game however you'll end up naming it, just so you can keep showing other companies how you're supposed to treat your customers.

You've got a point there, but on the other hand Civilization is pretty much the only strategy game EVERYONE knows and I still think it conveys a sense of "a-game-like-gal-civ-only-fantasy". I'm no marketeer though, it's just what I came up with. I'm fine with Stardock sticking to the elemental brandname. It'll always remind me of the way they turned a disappointment into a great game.

Legendary Civilizations is not bad.  LegCiv lol.  Still like MoE (Master of Elemental).

Elemental II: This One Doesn't Suck: A Legendary Heroes Sequel of Fallen Enchantress.

I think, for practical uses, the series is stuck with the Elemental name.  My own brain is a bit slow and stuck, I admit ... but as was pointed out earlier in this thread, reviewers still use it and while all acknowledge WoM was a bomb, many have been more favorable to FE and LH but still refer to them as being in the Elemental 'verse.

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Here's what I like

First I like Elemental: fallen something, like fallen enchantress, it uses what you already established and can build on it

Elemental: Fallen (whatever)

   ex. Elemental: Fallen empires; Elemental: Fallen heros; Elemental: Fallen warriors; Elemental: Fallen age; Elemental Fallen mages; etc

Next I just like elemental and a second name; elemental might be damaged right now, but I think a sequel if its good, wouldn't just undo the damage done by Elemental: War of Magic, it could result in good publicity and press

Elemental: (whatever)

   ex. Elemental: Age of wrath; Elemental: Time of sorrow; Elemental: Master of the shards; Elemental: Rise of kingdoms; Elemental: Reborn

Next I like Master(s) of Elemental, it keeps the name and also harkens back to MoM

Masters of Elemental: (whatever)

     ex. Masters of Elemental: The shard war; Master of Elemental: Age of Heroes

Next I like something new, a complete rebrand. However, to complete the rebrand you should use hexes. Then even with the exact same style of game play and artwork anyone; you could say it is a different game because "It's obviously a different kind of game. It's hex based and Elemental was a tile (or square) based game"

Something New: Total Rebrand

   ex. The Fallen Age: War of Mages; Fallen Empires vs. Kingdoms reborn;  Fantasy Civ; Legendary Civilizations; Fantasy Realms; Fantasy Empires; Frogboy presents: A Derek Paxton design: The Fantasy Kingdoms: Hex based fantasy 4x: With heroes AND armies;  or finally A very dangerous make believe world of magic, swords, strategy and heroes

That's my take on it.