[0.80 Balance] Ascian only two movement

I don't see why the Champion Ascian has only two movement. Ascian is a bit unusual to get, for you have to a quest for him, which only appears randomly. He comes as a lavel 9 champion so I assume he is supposed to be pretty strong. But he is a melee assassin, no weapon neither a horse (of course) equiptable, which makes him rather useless with only two movement. Also usually level 7 and 9 champion do come with a mount which gives them +2 movement, and Ascian is some kind of big cat itself, so I don't really see the reason for making him only 2 movement. I think he should at least have 4 movement, maybe even the same movement as a wolf.

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I have to agree.  I was actually ticked off when I saw his movement was only 2.

Reply #2 Top

It's strange that a panther only has 2 when Capitar units have 3.

Derek- could you increase his movement by 1 or 2?

Reply #3 Top

I'd expected a movement of 3, putting it on par with Wargs.  Ascian's Maul ability is nice, would be even nicer if it could engage in combat before the 3rd round of combat.

My current solution is to give it the Blink Ring, which is still kind of irritating

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When other "Cats" have this : 

<UnitType InternalName="Plaguestalker">
<DisplayName>Plaguestalker</DisplayName>
<CreatureType>Beast</CreatureType>
<CanBeDesigned>0</CanBeDesigned>
<IsSovereign>0</IsSovereign>
<HasWages>0</HasWages>
<SpawnRating>5</SpawnRating>
<MaxSpawn>3</MaxSpawn>
<LevelMilestone InternalName="L1">
<Level>1</Level>
<UnitStat_Accuracy>75</UnitStat_Accuracy>
<UnitStat_Attack_Pierce>12</UnitStat_Attack_Pierce>
<UnitStat_ChanceToCrit>1</UnitStat_ChanceToCrit>
<UnitStat_CombatSpeed>22</UnitStat_CombatSpeed>
<UnitStat_HitPoints>5</UnitStat_HitPoints>
<UnitStat_Intelligence>1</UnitStat_Intelligence>
<UnitStat_Moves>5</UnitStat_Moves>
<UnitStat_WeightCapacity>100</UnitStat_WeightCapacity>
</LevelMilestone>

Then why not give Ascian the legendary assassin of Lady Umber .. 6 in movement ? 

<DisplayName>Ascian</DisplayName>
<Description>You dream of a time before heroes, when titans ruled Elemental and those with ambition and courage were ruthlessly hunted and destroyed. You dream of Lady Umber sitting atop her onyx throne, keenly aware of all the threats to her empire. Her armies, her magic, her guile kept her lands safe. But when a more delicate hand was needed, when a rebel hero arose or someone showed to much magical aptitude, she summoned aide. From the shadows a silent form, nearly invisible but for amaranthine eyes and the wisps of faded magic, answered that call.</Description>

Reply #5 Top

The 5 movement would work. The biggest problem I have with the critter heroes in general is that they can not be mounted on horses or wargs and so they can't keep up or they slow the entire stack up.

Reply #6 Top

Huzzah! Derek addressed this in the .85 changelog:

Increased Ascian to 4 moves

Thanks, Derek!