[suggestion] No peace between alignments

Kingdoms vs Empires

from Elemental Forums

As far as I have looked to do this, I haven't been able to.  Unless I just missed how to do it and somebody points it out to me, I'd like to suggest it:

An option for permanent war between kingdoms and empires.  

(kingdoms and empires would still have diplomacy among themselves.)

I kind of yearn for a more violent and conflict ridden experience from the get go.  Monsters are all well and good but the added layer of what would essentially be a world war would increase the tension.  If you allow the opposing alignment to wipe out your "allies", then you will be alone against a group with a common enemy (you).

I know that the alignments already don't like each other, but I think this would just give things a boost and make for a more competitive game.

Just something I would like.  Take it a step further and implement a total war option as well.

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

If by "I have looked to do this" you meant modding, there are some values in CoreAIDefs.xml under "RELEATIONS" (sic) you can change to mostly do what you are asking. Set the values for opposite alignments (early, mid and late game) to like -30 and everyone on opposite alignments will always completely hate each other. It wont be war 100% of the time, they will occasionally ask for peace, but they'll declare war again a few turns later, and there will be no chance for any sort of treaties or collaboration. In that file you could can also make it so everyone hates each other, regardless of alignment, for an all out FFA war.

A permanent war option would be nice though, not really my thing. but I know it's fairly standard for the genre so I'm sure many people use it.

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top


Would definately make for an interesting game option.

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Reply #3 from Elemental Forums Top

Would ruin diplomatic victory if required, as well as make diplomacy almost useless in general. But I agree it could be a fun option. 

Reply #4 from Elemental Forums Top

"option" is the right word, I don't think I would want this mandatory.  

Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top

This would be a nice option. And would be better if you can set it for each empire without having to mod it in. That way you could set up a bad guy or two that cannot be reasoned with that woulf be your main enemy in the game.

Reply #6 from Elemental Forums Top

You can already get some form of this by setting up teams in the choose sovereigns screen. Set all the empires to an allince and set all the kingdoms to an alliance, put yourself in a third team. This would get your conflict between nations and against you.