[bug][.51] Starting defensive trait with custom sov

So I created a custom sov that is not krax with defensive trait and the starting spearmen start with a staff instead of spears. Tried combining defensive trait with warrior trait and still start with staff instead of spear. If creating a custom sov without the defensive trait, I get spearmen that start with a spear. If I create a custom krax sov or use Kraxis, I start with Spikes of Krax instead of spearmen and they use a short spear.

It looks like the defensive trait on a non krax sov downgrades the spearmen's starting weapon to a staff because it does not use the short spear instead.

Seeing this happening I checked great hammer trait. If you start as Markin or start a custom sov as Gilden with the great hammer trait, your Militia unit starts with a war club instead of a club. If you use a custom sov that is not Gilden with the great hammer trait, your Militia unit starts with a club.

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Further testing, I used a custom sov with defensive and warrior traits. This gave me barracks to train spearmen. When trying to customize a unit, no short spear was listed as an option. Looking at the tech tree, the short spear does not show up anywhere. So it looks like for some reason, the short spear specialty of the defensive trait is lost. The next upgrade, winged spear, shows up under blacksmithing as well as the bronze shield.

Used Kraxis, I start with those Spikes of Krax but cannot train any more, nore can I build any units with short spears as they are not available to design with.

So both it looks like the defensive trait drops the regular spear from the options of weapons available but does not add the short spear.

I guess this is also happening with other sov traits that add starting weapons like the club.

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This is actually a big deal to me, since I enjoy adding custom factions and this limits their starting possibilities by a lot.