[1.02] 100% magic based attack damages Ophidian

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a unit with a staff of cold (or whatever) firing at a distance, so 100% damages from cold magic is still capable of damaging a magic immune monster like ophidians.

 

Simple to repeat and fix I guess!

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

I think that direct elemental damage is not counted as magic.  Of course, ophidians are immune to dragon breath, so who knows.

I have a gut feeling that at some point the developers took a shortcut and did not bother clearly differentiating between a physical attack, physical special move, mundane ranged attack, ranged ability, spell, and spell-like ability.

These things ALWAYS come to bite you in the ass.  If dragon breath is indistinguishable from a fireball (and it should be different) and if a thrown knife is a spell, there's something wrong.

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top

What is the reverse of awesome?

 

Because if this is not recognized as magic, then is the damage component of the ice spear a cold damage? And if not, does it means that the Magnar don't take more damages from it?

 

I hope you are wrong, or everything would be kinda weird now.

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Reply #3 from Elemental Forums Top

The game's definition of magic is quite narrow. As far as i can describe it, "magic" is effects caused by a spell, which is selectable as an action in combat, and falls in the "spells" category of the tactical combat skillbar screen.

Elemental damage which does not come from a spell, isn't considered magic. even if it is quite clearly from an enchanted staff throwing magical bolts of fire.

I'd agree that the current way it works is illogical. But how SHOULD it work ?

 

 

re magnar: They have a negative resistance to the element of cold, and are weak to alll cold damage, whether it's from a spell or not.

Reply #4 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting NanakoAC, reply 3
The game's definition of magic is quite narrow. As far as i can describe it, "magic" is effects caused by a spell, which is selectable as an action in combat, and falls in the "spells" category of the tactical combat skillbar screen.

Elemental damage which does not come from a spell, isn't considered magic. even if it is quite clearly from an enchanted staff throwing magical bolts of fire.

I'd agree that the current way it works is illogical. But how SHOULD it work ?

 

 

re magnar: They have a negative resistance to the element of cold, and are weak to alll cold damage, whether it's from a spell or not.
End of NanakoAC's quote

As i understand it, if an attack can be resisted(is affected by spell mastery/magic resistance stats), it counts as a spell, and magic immunity protects against it. If an attack can be dodged/miss(is affected the accuracy/dodge stats), it counts as a physical attack, and magic immunity does not work against it.

Ranged attacks by elemental staves can be dodged/missed, therefore they are not affected by magic immunity.