Water magic - an overview

Water Tier 1:

Meditation - use a lot

Slow - a lot

Protection from cold - sometimes

 

Water Tier 2:

Chaos - sometimes

Freeze - a lot
 

Water Tier 3:

Pandemonium - sometimes

Spell leach - never

Summon ice elemental - never

 

Water Tier 4:

Blizzard - sometimes

Tidal wave - a lot

 

Water Tier 5:

Grip of winter - never

Vetrar's howl - sometimes
 

Combo spells:

Mantle of oceans - never, but i should

Gentle rain - never

Horrific wail - never

Stinking mud - never
 

Water Tier 1:

Meditation - more situational than other buffs but sometimes i use it, surely often with proci

Slow - good spell even if at some point there is always something better to do

Protection from cold - useless, as usual there is not good magic in game, and no need to defend from it

 

Water Tier 2:

Chaos - it was very cool a few patches ago, right now new spells are taking over, i think it needs a buff

Freeze - never use it

 

Water Tier 3:

Pandemonium - very good a few patches ago, now so and so, need more precise outcome for what it does

Spell leach - pretty useless
Summon ice elemental - after the buff this elemental is situationally very good, the combo of slows make a boss enemy struggle a lot, still it could use a small buff imo

 

Water Tier 4:

Blizzard - strong aoe

Tidal wave -  never used

 

Water Tier 5:

Grip of winter -didnt use much because as usual its easier to conquer, when defenses are much more stable maybe this is good

Vetrar's howl - so and so
 

Combo spells:

Mantle of oceans - op

Gentle rain - strong

Horrific wail - very strong
Stinking mud - good
 

Mantel of Oceans + Blizzard: Is the most powerful combo at the moment, because it deals 24 points of damage (Warlock + Path of the Mage + 1 Water Shard) and the damage is multiplied with the number of units, it has a large area of effect and costs only 11 mana (Path of Mage + Mantel of Oceans). The casting time is no problem, because with a good initiative and spell resistance it is very difficult to stop the casting.

Mantle of Oceans is the only reason I take water. Blizzard is nice. The rest of Water pretty much is useless.

If it wasn't for gentle rain & mantle, I would never take water above rank 1. Ranks 2 and 3 make me sad. I take rank 2 for the afore mentioned combo spells, but I never have the heart to waste a pick on rank 3 so I can access the top spells.

Kinda sad that (haste aside) this school's most compelling reasons to take it are because of synergies with other schools.

I find Water is a bit of an unusual one, the first 3 tiers don't feel very combat orientated, it's combat spells tend to just be disruptive - however when you get to tier 4 and 5 it really brings the pain with smashy face spells on par with fire. Not a bad set of spells overall IMO

Tier 1:

Meditation - this used to be a must-have for me in earlier betas although not so much now due to the essence slots restriction - I still use it though.

Slow - a mild debuff, pretty handy if it sticks

Tier 2:

Freeze is amazing, a very powerful effect that can really help when you're on the defensive - devs please don't nerf this

Chaos used to bypass resistance checks but now it's subject to them and consequently I find it less appealing - you used to get a random effect but you knew it would stick - I still use it occasionally but not so much

Tier 3:

Pandemonium - this is a nice cheap spell - OK it's random effects and now subject to resistance checks but it's also only 12 mana so I find it's often worth a punt.

Spell leach - this is my favourite counter spell because you can really milk it to get lots of mana - all you need to do is find a monster that casts spells and counter his spells with this a few times - you can wrack up loads of mana this way

Summon ice elemental - I like the change to ice elementals (frostborn) and if you go with a mage build plus mantle of oceans then this little guy only costs 7 mana as a tactical summon, which is pretty good IMO, especially since he'll also debuff what he hits and they'll waste a couple of turns hitting him

Tier 4:

Blizzard - even with a 2 turn casting time this spell is still excellent - it does tonnes of damage and only costs 30 mana and even with 2 turns to spread out you're still going to get a bunch of units with this

Tidal wave - this looks very cool but it's hard to assess how good it is, it appears to do pretty low damage but it hits all units in multiple armies and is fairly cheap too - it's very situational but has merit

Tier 5:

OMG water gets some really mean tier 5 spells - Vetrar's howl annihilates multiple armies, it's a very strong spell that deserves to cost so much mana. Grip of winter is also really powerful too, halting all enemy production is so crippling - I used this in earlier betas but not recently. I think disenchant works on it but I've never had a chance to test this out. Does anyone know more about this? One thing I want to know is whether a player needs to cast disenchant once or separately for each city (ouch)

Water gets an interesting and useful set of spells IMO. They should put mantle of oceans back in as exclusively water (not water2life2) and nerf it too.

Ya, Mantle of Oceans with life2 means all death mages and empire mages are screwed. I don't even think about casting Kill unless I can reduce the cost.

Water has like zero in the way of low level damage doers.  needs more summons as all branches do. 

I think its sad the damage from chaos and pandemonium is both random, and non scaling

All I can seem to use these spells to is meaby be lucky and slow down a wildland boss even more

Sincerely
~ Kongdej