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Notable – Chrome Overtook IE in Market Share.

May 22, 2012 10:13:46 AM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums

 

Not designed to start a ‘browser war’ here. Hankers sent me the link, and I thought it worth mentioning.

Browsing the graph by geographic area showed some very interesting stats. It would seem that the most impressive gain for Chrome and loss for IE comes from South America. I didn’t see any place in which Chrome actually lost to IE, but there are several areas where IE holds a steady lead – Australia, Germany… interesting.

It’s interesting to browse the site. Use the drop down labeled Stat.

For OS’s, http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-weekly-201120-201220  or search engines: http://gs.statcounter.com/#search_engine-ww-weekly-201120-201220

Take a look at Social media as well.

 

Anyway, I digress. I doubt W8 and IE10 will reverse this.

The best part of Chrome is its speed, even with extensions.

Sources:

http://www.neowin.net/news/chrome-overtakes-internet-explorer-in-market-share

http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-weekly-201120-201220

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Reply #1 May 22, 2012 10:26:39 AM
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It doesn't hurt Chromes stats any to include installations of Chrome foisted upon the unknowing  by being included with one program update or another. I've removed it from my Mom's PC twice already, and my Brother has no idea how it got on his PC, removed as well. Toolbars were bad enough, now Google  sticks you with a whole browser. Very crappy tactic, imho.

Sure, it helps the stats when you shove it down peoples throats, but installed does not equal use in this case.

 

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Reply #2 May 22, 2012 10:37:32 AM
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Chrome is more popular than Firefox AND IE? I'm really behind the times! Appreciate the post.

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Reply #3 May 22, 2012 10:49:11 AM
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Quoting Wizard1956,
reply 1
It doesn't hurt Chromes stats any to include installations of Chrome foisted upon the unknowing  by being included with one program update or another.

I really haven't seen that, Wiz. Other stuff, sure. Never heard of any browser except IE9 being foisted on anyone [in MS "Patch Tuesday" updates].

If you know where [which site or update] that happened, I'll more than gladly update folks on it.

I searched for "Chrome browser included in other software updates" on bing (I figure they'd have it) and on duckduckgo. All I found was:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10189217-92.html from 3/2009 for version 1 of Chrome.

 

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Reply #4 May 22, 2012 11:39:06 AM
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I'm not surprised ... Chrome is fast and it works well.

Google tracking and the lack of some add-ons I use, keeps me away. Don't mind the extra time Pale Moon takes to get going for the flexibility it gives me.

Well done Google, now stop trying to follow me around ...

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Reply #5 May 22, 2012 12:22:42 PM
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There's many factors (in my opinion) that helped Chrome to get there;

 

• Google is the number one search site and if you're not using Chrome, a huge ads will appear on

top right of Google.com, plus it's anywhere on the web, in banners and other kind of Ads.

 

• IE is just a "catch program", they don't bring anything new in ages, what they do is implement

features that become popular in other browsers (like tabs, unified search and address bars, etc).

 

• Many new and basic users  now search for alternative softwares to fit they needs instead of just

use the preinstalled ones.

 

• Chrome is just good, fast and have a really good UI, I don't use Chrome, I use Safari as default browser

but I keep it installed to test works and it's way better than IE (again, in my opinion).

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Reply #6 May 22, 2012 12:30:10 PM
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Quoting danilloOc,
reply 5
• Google is the number one search site and if you're not using Chrome, a huge ads will appear on

top right of Google.com, plus it's anywhere on the web, in banners and other kind of Ads.

 

@Dani - try this:

http://drjbhl.joeuser.com/article/424660/Drag_and_Drop_Free_Chrome_Search_Extension

that, and the extension "Do Not Track +" should address that.

 

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Reply #7 May 22, 2012 1:17:56 PM
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That might explain why only IE gets to play in W8.

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Reply #8 May 22, 2012 1:56:06 PM
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yeah not sure what the foisted upon guy is talking about?>!!?!

Seriously, IE9 specifically with it slow to start and it constant nagging to disable extensions is a piece of crap.  I tend to only use it for word or if a site requires it.  I also tell all my friends to switch to Chrome when asked.  IE days of being top dog are numbered.  But, they would have a chance if they fixed the initial open time.

 

BTW I am taking IE 9 32bit,  since the 64bit version is all but useless and notably slower than every other modern browser.

 

If you guys want the best browser for your IPad Dolphin rules

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Reply #9 May 22, 2012 2:18:53 PM
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Not designed to start a ‘browser war’ here.

Not you Doc, but the folks replying, well, how are you going to keep'em down on the farm once they've seen.............   

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Reply #10 May 22, 2012 4:08:33 PM
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I like Dolphin on the iPad, too.

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Reply #11 May 22, 2012 10:35:58 PM
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Quoting Wizard1956,
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Chrome foisted upon the unknowing by being included with one program update or another
Yep, I got it that way, but I can't remember what I was downloading at the time. I always read what a program is trying to install before I say 'go'  and if I had seen an option, I would have said 'no'. There was no warning, nothing stating that it was included, it just installed it.

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Reply #12 May 24, 2012 4:21:08 AM
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Quoting Xiandi,
reply 11

Quoting Wizard1956, reply 1 Chrome foisted upon the unknowing by being included with one program update or another

 Yep, I got it that way, but I can't remember what I was downloading at the time. I always read what a program is trying to install before I say 'go'  and if I had seen an option, I would have said 'no'. There was no warning, nothing stating that it was included, it just installed it.

Yeah, it happened to me a couple of times - once with a download of Winamp via C-Net, and another time with an Ashampoo app via Majorgeeks - where Chrome installed without my knowledge or consent.  That was a while ago and I've not been caught since, but it was a major annoyance because I don't want Google crap on my PC... period.

Hehe, it was funny!  When I uninstalled it I got this popup asking why I removed it *hehe chuckle, chuckle* and I said that I didn't trust Google apps in any way, shape or form, that it installed covertly and I had to get that "spying, tracking POS off my PC ASAP."  Anyway, a few days later I get an email from a Google customer relations person who tried to assure me that Google does not install its apps covertly on anyone's PC.  With that I called him a bare-faced liar and refused to entertain any further correspondence from him/Google... a couple more emails arrived the next day but they were marked as untrusted and went straight to my spam folder unopened.

As for Chrome installing on other peoples PCs without prior knowledge or consent, I've heard quite a few stories of it happening, and like me, most people I spoke with were highly annoyed as well.

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Reply #13 May 24, 2012 4:57:35 AM
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The only remedy against bundling is choosing the "Advanced Install" option. That gives you the most choice as to what installs and what doesn't.

In addition, your friend can write to c|net and let them know that he doesn't like 'bundling', which is done to increase revenue for the download service.

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Reply #14 May 24, 2012 6:09:03 AM
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The thing is, Doc, I always use the advance installation to avoid crapware and the like.  On those occasions I ended up with Chrome, it installed with the apps regardless, with no opt in or opt out selections to even give me the choice.  For me that is an imposition on my goodwill... or at least an expectation of it, and even if I wanted/liked Chrome and had some thought of installing it at some stage, I'd still find a covert installation of it an unwelcome invasion.

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Reply #15 May 24, 2012 7:22:39 AM
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I can't imagine speed being a good enough reason to let google have more chances to sneak a look at my net print.
(proudly posted with FF, since 2002.)

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Reply #16 May 24, 2012 10:19:34 AM
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This is interesting ... http://www.withinwindows.com/2012/05/23/windows-8-secrets-internet-explorer-10-will-ship-with-adobe-flash/

Flash is going to be integrated into IE 10 ... looks like MS is taking a few ideas from Chrome.

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Reply #17 May 24, 2012 10:51:49 AM
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Quoting starkers,
reply 14
The thing is, Doc, I always use the advance installation to avoid crapware and the like.  On those occasions I ended up with Chrome, it installed with the apps regardless, with no opt in or opt out selections to even give me the choice.  For me that is an imposition on my goodwill... or at least an expectation of it, and even if I wanted/liked Chrome and had some thought of installing it at some stage, I'd still find a covert installation of it an unwelcome invasion.

The bundlers are the guilty party... not Google, really. Doubt they need to pay c|net to have their browser advanced. MS, on the other hand will be limiting W8 to IE10. That is monopolistic, and Europe (as well as many other places) won't put up with it. Another nail in W8's coffin.

Anyway, I doubt Chrome's popularity stems from artificially inflated numbers.

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Reply #18 May 24, 2012 11:01:44 AM
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Why am I not surprised?  I originally thought that Firefox would surpass IE first years ago, but I guess not.  And i've read that Android is to surpass Windows by 2016.  I wouldn't be surprised if Droid surpassed Windows in 2014 from the failure that will be Windows 8.

And until Chrome starts to integrate with WindowBlinds, i'm sticking with Pale Moon (Windows-optimized spin-off of Firefox) and/or Maxthon, because Chrome's UI is pure BLAH!

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Reply #19 May 24, 2012 4:00:42 PM
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Chrome's UI could be worse.  But PM's is near-perfect.

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Reply #20 May 28, 2012 12:36:29 PM
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I will note that the Flash update from the website will often install Chrome unless you specifically tell it not to.  Not exactly stealthed, but not something everyone would notice either.

I use Chrome myself, but I will consider IE10 if it performs well.

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Reply #21 May 28, 2012 1:40:19 PM
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Quoting Daiwa,
reply 19
Chrome's UI could be worse.  But PM's is near-perfect.

Have to agree.

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Reply #22 May 30, 2012 2:14:51 PM
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Quoting DrJBHL,
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http://drjbhl.joeuser.com/article/424660/Drag_and_Drop_Free_Chrome_Search_Extension

 

Thanks Doc. but I really prefer Safari over Chrome, I also use AdBlock Plus on Safari

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Reply #23 May 30, 2012 6:54:59 PM
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I love my speed dial - Firefox type. My whole internet world is in it. Nothing the same for any other browser. I hate that Firefox is such a hog memory wise, but I've tried the others and they just don't "fit" my style.

Can anyone tell me how to turn off the thing where Google registers every search link you click on?  Watch the address bar, first it does some flip through Googleland and then goes to wherever the link is for. I'd rather Google didn't know where I went but unfortunately it no longer has enough of the link just to right click or cut and paste and bypass whatever they are doing when I click on their link. Perhaps another search would work better (not BING for heavens sake)

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Reply #24 May 30, 2012 8:14:00 PM
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Try DuckDuckGo for search.  Doesn't track you at all.

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Reply #25 May 30, 2012 8:43:12 PM
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And exists as an extension for Chrome and Firefox. If you're having a problem with FF's RAM footprint, FF12 should have solved that problem.

If not, Try Pale Moon (FF tailored to Windows)... www.palemoon.org

 

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