How much grain needed?

As an FYI you need (pretty sure) seven (7) grain to be able to achieve a L5 city.  In my last game I had six grain and every conceivable food improvement other than Refined Agriculture, plus I was running Gentle Rain for +20% Food and I still fell 50 food short.  If I had Refined Ag I'd have been like 8 food short.  

This is for the Kingdom side BTW, with the Empire your mileage may vary.

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The answer is 'too much' :p

Without being able to choose what cities map resources flow to, acheiving a level 5 city typically requires building the grain thingy wonder. The total required food should be 700 not 800. Plenty of cities I have built have been unable to breach the former value. It would result in more than 1 level 5 city, and perhaps growth should be slowed as that city reaches it's population limit, but it's better than being forced to build a wonder for it.

Additionally gentle rain should be avialable as a technology not a spell school, to illiminate the randomness of being hosed out of 20% more populous cities.