They’re Still at It. SOPA and the “Kill” Switch.

from JoeUser Forums

 

According to RT (http://rt.com/usa/news/senate-sopa-new-internet-847/):

“After trying to adopt Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and Protect IP Act (PIPA), both pieces of legislation turned out to be a disaster, causing outrage among Internet giants and ordinary users alike. Congress had to retreat. However it's determined to get what it wants this time.”

More like they’re determined to get what MIAA, RIAA and MPIAA want and what they can give them for it. Amazing that the “do nothing (for the American people)” Congress seems to be in high gear to get this poor legislation done. Well, in a media dominated election year what do you expect, folks?

After all, Sen. Harry Reid did say, “There is no reason that the legitimate issues raised by many about this bill cannot be resolved.”  After all, Sen. Reid did add that our Solons will ““continue engaging with all stakeholders to forge a balance between protecting Americans’ intellectual property, and maintaining openness and innovation on the Internet.”  A view mirrored by Lamar Smith (R. California).

Apparently, DMCA isn’t good enough for Harry nor Lamar, nor their “constituents”, who probably aren’t the people of Nevada or California in this case. Well, in Lamar’s case maybe some of them: The richest and most powerful, anyway.

Now, the push is on again according to RT and Neowin.net (via RT). The details haven’t been disclosed to the public. Well, after the last fiasco they learned their lesson. The way to secure “no public objection” is to keep the public in the dark.

“However some leaks suggest that the bill will grant the authority to crack down on the Internet to the executive branch of power, namely the White House. It looks highly possible taking into consideration that the legislation has to come out of the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, chaired by Connecticut Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman. - http://rt.com/usa/news/senate-sopa-new-internet-847/

Now that’s neither Torah nor Gospel. That’s rumor. But it’s enough to make me demand the details. I hope non-media reporters will hound them until we do find out. After all, “Independent” (“I’ll wear any label to get me elected”) Sen. Joe Lieberman did sponsor the bill that would have granted the President power over “the kill switch” after declaring “a cybersecurity emergency”. That bill also evoked the proper outrage, and never made it to the Senate.

What do you think? Is it on the way back? But do be careful of what you say and how you say it: The Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee is chaired by Connecticut Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman.

Beginning to make sense? Oh yes, guess who wrote an Op-Ed piece about PIPA, SOPA and OPEN just yesterday in The New York Times?  None other than Cary H. Sherman, RIAA CEO. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/opinion/what-wikipedia-wont-tell-you.html?_r=3)

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

The assault on Liberty will never end.  That is why the US Constitution was written the way it was.  It gives the power to the people, not the government.

 

Revolution is a Right, and so is Secession from the Union...  And it's looking better every day.

Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top

On my other 2 forums its now a constant call for revolution. So is a load of YouTube comments.

Or just move to Canada before we start putting up the wall. And trust me when I say its not to keep Canadians in.

EDIT: Crap where is that tinfoil. I think a drone just flew over my place.  :X

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Reply #3 from Elemental Forums Top

Power to the people only works when the people are paying attention. 

gtg... Glee is on and I just ordered the family size at KFC.  :d

Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top

My bigger concern right now is ACTA which Obama already signed and is definately an invasion of privacy.

Reply #5 from Elemental Forums Top

Yikes, the greedy want ever more power don't they?  What does Anti-Counterfeiting have to do with generic medicines and intellectual property?  Why don't they just make a "You're Totally Happy and You Agree With Everything We Do" Act. :-(

Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/04/acta-is-here.ars

I posted some stuff from the bill in Doc's other thread. The above link is a good read. All under the radar of the people as usual.

Haha, just reading through the notes and Canada, EU and Aus loves to cross stuff out and US keeps adding stuff in.

leaked http://www.laquadrature.net/wiki/ACTA_20100118_version_consolidated_text

Reply #8 from Elemental Forums Top

The way to secure “no public objection” is to keep the public in the dark.
End of quote

or reword & BS in abstruse language....rat bastards

SOP from the Government.

Reply #9 from Elemental Forums Top

lol. Nice!

Reply #10 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting SivCorp, reply 1
The assault on Liberty will never end.  That is why the US Constitution was written the way it was.  It gives the power to the people, not the government.

 

Revolution is a Right, and so is Secession from the Union...  And it's looking better every day.
End of SivCorp's quote

Reply #11 from Elemental Forums Top

Don't be in too much of a rush to flee to Canada for Internet save haven. Not only will we be forced/our Prime Minister bending over, to follow similar lines on US Internet laws under the pretense of joint security, but our ISPs are already so monopolized that three telecoms own 94% of the market and charge $40+/month for 16GB of data and 3mb/s connection(if you're lucky) for a basic internet package. Not to mention the $2/gb overage charges. To get 250gb of data usage, you would have to fork out over $100 a month from a major provider here.

The more you know.

Reply #12 from Elemental Forums Top

The government knows they can pass pretty much whatever they want. The only way they can be stopped is by a group effort by us, the citizens. They know that will never happen. Americans are politically lazy and ignorant of their power. Let's hope it stays that way.  ;)

Reply #13 from Elemental Forums Top

I would be careful avoid conflating two separate issues in the proposed legislation. Many copyright industry groups are unhappy with the legislation since they believe that it doesn't grant law enforcement agencies enough authority to respond to cases of copyright infringement. The 'kill-switch', by contrast, grants the President authority to limit access to the internet during a national security crisis.

Quoting StevenAus, reply 5
What does Anti-Counterfeiting have to do with generic medicines and intellectual property
End of StevenAus's quote

History. Intellectual property protections are intended to not only grant exclusive rights to creators, but also provide consumers with guarantees of authenticity and quality. That's why counterfeiting is debated in the same fora as generic medicines. Yes, the name of the agreement is a bit cute, but it's no worse than any other piece of legislation, national or international. 

Reply #16 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Rovert10, reply 4
My bigger concern right now is ACTA which Obama already signed and is definately an invasion of privacy.
End of Rovert10's quote

There's an interesting article at Techdirt about whether or not ACTA will be treated as an executive agreement or should be considered a treaty and thus require approval by the Senate. I take the latter position and am about to go sign the petition at Whitehouse.gov linked from that article.

I voted for Obama and will do so again because the alternatives are unacceptable to me, but the health of our republic most definitely depends on active, constructive dissent. The man's steady drift to the right since his election hasn't exactly surprised me, but I must abashedly admit that I'm very surprised at his immediate and strong conversion to the imperial presidency tradition. If he sets this new precedent for expansive use of executive agreements, he'll have opened up a whole new realm of potential abuse of power by presidents of all parties.

Re the OP, that RT article should not talk about "under a new name" when they don't know the name. Rumours are often the start of public awareness of important stories, but both professional and amateur journalists should be direct and clear about when they are sharing rumours vs. known facts. I'm very sympathetic with the counterfeit goods parts of those execrable bills, and I'd be happy to learn that this "under a new name" thing is actually targeted at material goods and not another attempt to extend digital content laws for the benefit of major corporations. 

Why do so few of the formal discussions of these online issues include fair use? If the RIAA/MPAA crowd keep on winning, fair use will be reduced to old-school photocopied zines (samizdat).

Reply #17 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting GW, reply 16
The man's steady drift to the right since his election hasn't exactly surprised me, but I must abashedly admit that I'm very surprised at his immediate and strong conversion to the imperial presidency tradition. If he sets this new precedent for expansive use of executive agreements, he'll have opened up a whole new realm of potential abuse of power by presidents of all parties.
End of GW's quote

Well, if nothing else, at least it's an interesting reminder that American politics always involves more than parties. 

Reply #18 from Sins Forums Top

Awwwwwggggg, Canadians are needed.  8C

 

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