[Suggestion] Apply Penalty to Heroes that Fall in succesful battle

I agree. He or she was defeated and must suffer the consequence. 

Maybe immobilize them for a few turns - say that they have to stop and rest after being knocked unconscious in battle. It's a little milder than getting permanent disabilities (let's save that for the battles you actually lose, so there's a clear difference) but it'd slow down your offensive if it happens, enough to make you want to protect your champions rather than treating them as expendable because there's no consequence.

I like it!

Or allow them to stay with their army, but they are withheld from combat for a few turns while they recover. 

Give them a damn injury, seriously. They went down. There should be a HUGE penalty for that. Hell, they used to fucking DIE in E:wom.

I change my mind, there must be injury.

I still think this idea of sovs and heroes being immortal is a mistake as it takes a lot of the tension out of battles. 

Yes, I agree as well a hero who falls (regardless of whether his/her side wins) should absorb a negative trait.

They added it mainly because the AI would be at a huge disadvantage without it, they can't reload if a champion dies.

I think it's a far better idea to put in penalties for sloppy play than potential game enders, which just cause the player to reload. Injuries and timeouts on heroes can be considered acceptable losses, losing a hero you've nurtured for 5+ real life hours, not so much.

I agree with this.
 

This. I don't believe I'm the only player who makes a lot of use of the quick-save. The way Champions have been structured in FE keeps the AI in the game because unlike us they can't just reload if a battle goes against them.

I like they way they are structured in FE.

Heroes should die, or have a chance to die. I get tired of killing the same hero over and over again. Sometimes twice in the same turn, i kill him near a city and the poor guy respawns in that city and i have to kill him again, and again, and again...

Then let player heroes always get a penalty when they die and AI heroes only get penalty when fighting against player units. This way AI is not penalized for bad battles against The Wild but players still feel it is fair when they send suicide squads to weaken a AI squad.

Ya, seriously. Are you guys even considering the abuse and exploits these immortal never-get-injuries champions will cause to the game? All you need is champions, doesn't matter if they die, they lose nothing from dying anyway right?

I recommend anyone who thinks the current system is fine, to play a game. In that game, get two champions. Play with the exploit in mind. Go kill monsters to level-up, then kill the enemy factions. And then come back here and tell me it wasn't ridiculously easy.

Don't need units. Don't need magic. Don't need items. Just buy some champions, steamroll every enemy faction and everything they send against you. Who cares if you got killed 10 times over? Your army leader won the battle.

Immortal champions with no injuries = infinite supply of tactical military strength at no cost.

I would go for heroes getting an injury over dying. Maybe a bell curve distribution where dying is the worst thing that happens, but on the other end is only getting a scratch, or even getting tougher if you really freaking luck out. 

Brawler trait- You get beat down in nearly every fight, as a result you can really take a punch. (+1 Constitution)

Dead trait- You died cause your sovereign was tired of reviving you after every single battle. (Dead)

I think heroes should always gain an injury if they fall in battle. IN ADDITION if they fall again within 5-10 turns they have a 50% of dieing. Something like that would help prevent abuse.

I agree with the injury for falling heroes.

I disagree that they should be killed or injured if you still win the battle. They start at 1 HP at the end of the battle. That should be enough. Otherwise you risk losing heroes too easily. They are hard to regain, especially in the late game.

Heroes being able to teleport away after a losing battle is the real issue in "Hero Immortality". That should be limited to your avatar.

Death should leave it's mark on all who meet it.  Neither victory nor defeat, curry favor with Grim Reaper. Dead is dead, the means matter not. All who die have lost. All who escape win. The mark should be borne by all. 

Agreed. Player champions should suffer some sort of drawback to being defeated in combat, regardless of the outcome. If it is a victory, then have them unsuable for a time and/or wounded.. And while I think that for a player this is one of the more balanced ways to do it, I think that the AI should be given a bit more leniency when it comes to champions falling in combat. As it has been stated in posts above, the AI can not reload after getting eaten by a big dragon.

Agreed. However, I'm open to a random chance roll (low) of them being grievously injured as a result of falling in battle too. However, I don't think it should be as heavy as dying outright.

I still think defeated champions should be able to be captured but that'd probably require a LOT of coding.

Something needs to be done, I'm actually protecting my grunt units over my champions. 

Maybe if a champion is KOed in victory, they get sent to the nearest town to recover (and are immobilized a few turns) , with a chance of getting an injury.

At least then if you're on the defensive, taking out a champion is going to slow them down some.

Not only should all heroes who fall in battle suffer negative consequences, the results should scale with the champions level, as in, a lost eye might be -3 accuracy to a level 3 hero who falls in battle, and -10 accuracy to a lvl 10 champion.  Actually it shouldn't be linear like that, it should be more like -12 or more for the level 10.  Something that would seriously make a player stop and consider their actions.

Stardock wanted champs that could take out entire armies, so this wont change.

Looking forward to when we can mod stuff...