Anyone that claims the iraqui invasion was a designate of god qualifies in my book as a big dumbf***, and a complete nutcase.

LOL. It's only good for the torrent hoster. The uploader or downloader are still liable.

Sure, the guys is a tard, is that really any reason to attack a nationality?  Whats next? An attack on his inferior gender, or something based on his ethnicity?

if he was we could probably find him...

The fact that you think copyright infringement is theft speaks volumes about your ignorance of the very laws you're advocating for.  Major corporations who own intellectual property continuously lobby our government to make it theft, but it really isn't. They are also trying to get rid of any sort of public domain or public benefit from copyright. You see it used to be that the government provided copyright protection under the agreement that after a certain time these works would enter public domain for the benefit of everyone. You can thank companies like Disney for trying to prevent anything from becoming public domain for eternity. You see these laws, at least used to, dictate that ideas aren't protected, just a temporary monopoly on reproduction and distribution.

If you want to educate yourself, feel free to read the wealth of information, albeit even limited given the scope of copyright history and law:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright

The Golden Rule is the rule that you should treat others as you would like to be treated. Given that you're hostile and emotionally driven, draw short and black and white conclusions that are simple minded and ignorant, that you call people names when you can't think of anything better to say against their arguments, and that you're generally rude and socially inept, I suppose you expect people to treat you as such. I'm sorry for giving you more respect and dignity than you both show and expect from others.

At the end of the day, you're intellectually bankrupt, and ignore the broad spectrum of things that contradict your narrow world view. People will pirate things for many reasons, and "not caring" is probably the last thing that enters the equation. I used to pirate games and music as a young person because I couldn't afford most of the music and games and movies I wanted, so I found a way to get them anyways. Did I break the law at the time? Sure, but the people you speak of who need to feed their children didn't lose any money from my actions, because the money simply wasn't there in the first place. You know what I have done since, having become a working adult with money? I've purchased nearly everything I've ever pirated that was worth having. In fact, I think in the long run these people have netted more money because of the fact I could find their work for free. Many musicians I would never have paid money to, because it's inconvenient or impossible to demo their music outside of internet piracy. Many movies I would never have watched had I not been able to download anything willy nilly. Many single player games that I wouldn't have payed $50-60 dollars for had I not been able to try them for free first.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating that piracy is great. I'm merely sharing my own personal point of view to counter your simple minded nonsense. 

I have 290 games on Steam, some on Impulse, a huge movie collection, many books, hundreds of CDs. If I ever pirate anything today it's for one of 2 reasons.

1) I always want to try something before I buy it. If I cannot do this outside of piracy then I will pirate it. If I like it then I will buy it. If I don't then I delete it.

2) If DRM prevents me from enjoying what I pay for, I will either crack it or download a pirated copy with DRM stripped. Under the copyright laws you seem so avid to protect, I also have a right to make a back up copy of what ever I buy, yet DRM prevents this from happening. I will crack or rip DVD's or games in order to back them up. Preventing me from doing so is against the law.
 

Funny how anyone who disagrees with you is labeled as whining. If anyone is whining here, it'd be you. Oh but I interrupted you mid sentence, continue:

No I'm not. 

No I'm not.

No it isn't.

You want to be a simple minded, ignoramus and simplify everything on a level that your limited cognitive capabilities allow you to understand them, and throw off insults and tell people what they mean, instead of listening to what they're saying. You have no argument, you have no thought. You have blind emotional reactions that say nothing, and mean nothing, outside of your little head.
 

So do I, and probably most people who you label as thieving, pirating, scum, but hey don't let me try to tell you you're wrong. 

You must not have much respect for yourself then.

I agree with you completely. I probably came off as negative, and probably wasted my time. His post was just screaming to be put into place using his own ignorance against him. I guess I fell for the troll bait.

Funny how you link to things without refuting earlier arguments.  Of course you can't, and instead use the pirates normal list of excuses.

When I was a child in the 80's, I wanted games too.  There were tons of games.  I only got $5 every month.

So how did I go about things?  I saved my money until I could afford things.  I didn't steal.  THAT is the golden rule.  I treated game designers with respect.  I bought things when I could, I didn't take what wasn't mine.

If I made something scum like you would just take it.  You don't follow the golden rule yourselves, you take what isn't yours and cause issues with commerce.  You can kindly fuck yourselves if you hate what I say.

You are full of shit.  You spend your time making excuses for yourself.  You can't tell me that a single player game that is 5-10 hours long THAT YOU BEAT A WHILE BACK is something you would buy if you suddenly got money, because again you would be full of shit.

And the whole thing of people not losing money is bullshit, because in the past, and people today with scruples, save money instead of taking what they want.

You can attempt your bullshit with others who make as many excuses as you do.  But all you are is a person with a million excuses to why they do things.

I do find it funny that people who are jumping on my golden rule blurb are basing their entire arguments on NEEDING MONEY JUST TO HAVE MORALS.  So if you have money, you buy things, if you don't then you suddenly have the rights to take what you want?

And as far as the golden rule is concerned, if someone broke into your house and stole things they would be different in your eyes then what you do.  You make excuses for yourselves and try to pass yourselves off as non thieves to make you feel better about what you do. But the problem is, you are thieves who try to ignore the reality of the situation.  You would treat other thieves differently in near identical situations.

It was not meant as an argument. Just wondering if my 80 year old mother is going to jail or my 11 year old nephew. I think it should be my sister for supplying the mp3 device that allows pirated songs on it.

Ahh hell, throw the lot in jail.

I generally agree with HeavenFall here. If a crime is committed, a suitable punishment should be sought. Yet, In America, if a teenager walks into a record store, grabs a CD and walks out without paying, the individual in question is issued a reasonable fine for the theft of the CD, usually in the $100-$200 range. If a similar teenager goes online and illegally downloads the same CD, this individual and his/her family can now be sued for upwards of $500,000 per song downloaded. Looking at our two examples, the crime in the first case is far more severe than the crime in the second case, as the first individual is knowingly harming not only the industry producing the product but also the store and its employees who actually own the physical CD. The honest truth is that we as a international society find ourselves in a precarious situation. On the one hand, the copyright enforcement is not universal on the international stage, and secondly, even in countries where copyrights both exist and are enforced, the enforcement is lax at best. Because of this, our world has yet to be forced to discuss whether these laws and regulations are either legitimate or even workable for the long term. While we might think that this is a simple debate about downloading music or games from the internet, it is really a much larger debate which covers things like birthday cakes and pinatas.