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An "old fart" gamer says...."thanks"

An "old fart" gamer says...."thanks"

Yep...old dude here.  47 is ancient in the computer gaming world!  I simply broke my normal lurking silence to say "thanks" to Frogboy and the Stardock team for Elemental.  Yes, I've had a few crash to desktops, but each patch cuts down on 'em.  What I'm thankful for is the FUN I've had...It's been a long, long time since any company has had the guts to release a turn-based strategy game.  They are not the most popular thing out there these days!  However, a long and fun strategy game that can take hours is blissful heaven for some of us.  Elemental fits the bill...and judging from Stardocks track record, it will do nothing but get better over time.

 

By the way, I purchased this at the local Wal-mart...they only had 2 copies and both were in the stockroom!  They hadn't even bothered to put it out by Thursday of last week.  PC gaming is a dying art, I'm afraid.

 

Thanks again,

 

"Old fart" jmarke

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Reply #27 Top

At 62, I have socks and underwear older than most of you tykes...  Started with Avalon Hill board games in the 1960's and bought my first computer in '84 (a Mac) and PC in '88.  TBS games were abundant then.  The good old days.  Crude graphics, but lots of new ideas and energy.

Reply #28 Top


Yep...old dude here.  47 is ancient in the computer gaming world!  I simply broke my normal lurking silence to say "thanks" to Frogboy and the Stardock team for Elemental.  Yes, I've had a few crash to desktops, but each patch cuts down on 'em.  What I'm thankful for is the FUN I've had...It's been a long, long time since any company has had the guts to release a turn-based strategy game.  They are not the most popular thing out there these days!  However, a long and fun strategy game that can take hours is blissful heaven for some of us.  Elemental fits the bill...and judging from Stardocks track record, it will do nothing but get better over time.

 

By the way, I purchased this at the local Wal-mart...they only had 2 copies and both were in the stockroom!  They hadn't even bothered to put it out by Thursday of last week.  PC gaming is a dying art, I'm afraid.

 

Thanks again,

 

"Old fart" jmarke

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Really?  I wonder why Stardock continues bothering with retail when places like Wal-mart pull shit like this.

Reply #29 Top

Anyway i am guessing the majority is about 30+ to like this kind of games.

Reply #30 Top

Quoting Twohawks, reply 9

I first saw Star Trek in B&W. One of those tiny screen sets.
Bah I cry shenanigans... Star trek  debuted in 1966 I was 6 heh heh
End of Twohawks's quote
You cry?!?!

Not as much as I cried.

Until we finally got a color set (with a remote -- the 4 button ones with the 4 rods in them) and then my tears were for Joy!

I was starting 7th grade in the fall of '66.

Reply #31 Top

Quoting gunnergoz, reply 27
Started with Avalon Hill board games in the 1960's
End of gunnergoz's quote

You mean back when Avalon Hill was Avalon Hill and not a division of Wizards / Hasbro that the younger generations are familiar with.

RuneQuest  /sigh (of happy reminiscing)

 

Reply #32 Top

Quoting Nick-Danger, reply 30
I was starting 7th grade in the fall of '66.
End of Nick-Danger's quote

Was that 66 AD or 66 BC? :rofl:

Reply #33 Top

Quoting gunnergoz, reply 27
At 62, I have socks and underwear older than most of you tykes...  Started with Avalon Hill board games in the 1960's and bought my first computer in '84 (a Mac) and PC in '88.  TBS games were abundant then.  The good old days.  Crude graphics, but lots of new ideas and energy.
End of gunnergoz's quote
*bows head in respect of greater age*

I too cut my teeth on Avalon Hill boardgames.  Blitzkrieg, 1914 (a horrible game but still fun), tactics II, Anzio, Le Mans, Management, etc.

I was lucky that a friend's older brother had almost every one of their games, and I could borrow those I didn't own.

Squad Leader then ASL are the penultimate.

Such as sad fate for such a great game company, tho their current 'owners' aren't bad.

The General was a great magazine, I kept my subscription for many many years.

 

Reply #34 Top

Quoting Gravedancer, reply 32

Quoting Nick-Danger, reply 30I was starting 7th grade in the fall of '66.
Was that 66 AD or 66 BC?
End of Gravedancer's quote
:rofl:

*runs after the kids shaking fist and shouting 'get off my thread'*

Reply #35 Top

Quoting Gravedancer, reply 31

Quoting gunnergoz, reply 27Started with Avalon Hill board games in the 1960's
You mean back when Avalon Hill was Avalon Hill and not a division of Wizards / Hasbro that the younger generations are familiar with.

RuneQuest  /sigh (of happy reminiscing)

 
End of Gravedancer's quote

 

He means way, way before.  I think Tanktics (sp?) had an original publish date of 1960 exactly (or maybe '59).  It was another decade before half of my chromosomes even met the other half.

 

RQ.  Used to love to read the rulebooks, don't think I ever managed to get a group together.  Maybe a game or two at an old Con at most.  With a good deal of babying, cajoling, and outright bullying, I can get Windows 7 to run King of Dragon Pass (http://a-sharp.com/kodp/) though.

Reply #36 Top

Actually, the first Avalon Hill game I bought was the boardgame Nieuchess around 1961, followed by Tactics II right afterwards.  Both games started a fire that has yet to go out...I bought many, many board games but the problem was always finding the time and buddy to play with.  Then later there were the monster board games that were fun to buy and lay out but the cats or dogs in the house invariably ended those experiments.  PC TBS games proved to be just what I was looking for but their heyday seems to have passed except for Elemental and Civ and a few others from Matrix.

Reply #37 Top

39 here.

@ Walmart issue: I almost exclusively get all my games online (Stardock, Steam, etc.) - for various reasons: Easy updates, desire to not have cardboard refuse, no travel time, etc.  I believe sales at stores such as Walmart are reflecting this consumer behavior and so we are seeing a transformation into a market where buying software at a physical location will be phased out altogether.  Perhaps never completely phased out (like record albums), but we'll certainly never see a glut of Software, Etc.'s and Egghead stores like we used to.

@ 1541 issue: Ha!  The 1541 was my pride and joy and it was the first piece of hardware I had to sucker my parents into buying (it was actually more expensive than the C64 itself was).  In 1984, it meant that instead of playing Telengard from my tape drive, I could play Ultima 3 from my disk drive.  At that point in time, games on tape were being phased out and big-time developers like Origin (hehe) would only release games on floppies.  Allegedly there was a cartridge available too, but I never saw this on sale...

Just for giggles, I'm taking a moment to marvel at how Telengard was one of the first rogue-likes I ever enjoyed playing... Geez, that game was tough.

Reply #38 Top

I remember Tactics II.  Very simple game:  you had counters, and they had different values depending on what military age you were playing in.   Kind of like a cross between Civ and Stratego.   I played against my Dad.  I lost.    That's a lesson in life I learned quickly.   Now when I play a game against my son, I'm gonna whup him.

Reply #39 Top

There's a VASSAL program/community that facilitates playing some of these old boardgames over the net.

For ASL there's VASL

For other games there's VASSAL

I played around with them a while ago but had some trouble and didn't pursue it sufficiently to figure it out.  Folks do get it to work, tho.  And the list of games (modules) that it works with is pretty long.

Reply #40 Top

Quoting tetleytea, reply 38
I remember Tactics II.  Very simple game:  you had counters, and they had different values depending on what military age you were playing in.   Kind of like a cross between Civ and Stratego.   I played against my Dad.  I lost.    That's a lesson in life I learned quickly.   Now when I play a game against my son, I'm gonna whup him.
End of tetleytea's quote
Tactics II

The game was the last one pre-hex grids IIRC.  A great old game.

 

Reply #41 Top

I still have a copy of Tactics II in the basement... although mine wasn't from the 1960's, lol.

One of my favorite places was this game store called Napoleons.  In half the store they had it stocked with all the AH boxed games, an assortment of miniatures filing the walls, Osprey books, exquisite chess sets, and military memorabilia. I loved taking trips to that place and just walking around and looking at stuff.

Although I owned a few AH games, I never really got to play them much.  Wasn't anyone around that was really interested in playing.  Plus it was difficult if they weren't familiar with the game themselves.  I never liked explaining rules to people, much less the binder of rules that AH was.  So it was more of a collection for me.

 

Reply #42 Top

I bought the Elemental Limited Edition out of my first social security check.:beer:    But I took it early (62) before all the money is gone.  Glad I'm not a young kid in these times.:andrew:

Reply #43 Top

Quoting Verilee1970, reply 37
@ 1541 issue: Ha!  The 1541 was my pride and joy and it was the first piece of hardware I had to sucker my parents into buying (it was actually more expensive than the C64 itself was).  In 1984, it meant that instead of playing Telengard from my tape drive, I could play Ultima 3 from my disk drive.  At that point in time, games on tape were being phased out and big-time developers like Origin (hehe) would only release games on floppies.  Allegedly there was a cartridge available too, but I never saw this on sale...
End of Verilee1970's quote

Remember when copy protection consisted of asking you for a certain word on a certain page?  I remember missing part of the manual so whenever it would ask for those pages I'd have to restart.

Reply #44 Top

I am 23 but I was born age 70. I was born tired of those damn kids and their rock and roll. I am now over a thousand and I just search the earth looking for something that interests me. This game does.

Reply #45 Top

I was programming in assembly on my Vic-20 when you young-'uns were all knee-high to a... oh wait, I'm right in the pack here at 41.

Vintage '69 model, yeah, summer of love happens when Fearzone blows into town.

:digichet:  

Reply #46 Top

Guys, I just want to say you're all splendid, really! (just 30 here, but I have some respect for experience and old gamers)

Reply #47 Top

38 here. Started with Sinclair ZX spectrum. Good times :)

Reply #48 Top

1977 from This side :) my first comp was C64 :P

My friend who buy Elemental too is from 1975 :D

Stardock and all employers! Thx for this good game :) (we w8 for next stability patch and wait for patch which unlock multiplayer game :P)

Reply #49 Top

Quoting Gravedancer, reply 43

Remember when copy protection consisted of asking you for a certain word on a certain page?  I remember missing part of the manual so whenever it would ask for those pages I'd have to restart.
End of Gravedancer's quote

I sure do remember that.  Pretty soon, the page/paragraph/word method gave way to the code wheel method.  I think the first game I had with a wheel was Pool of Radiance.

Reply #50 Top

Quoting stax77, reply 47
38 here. Started with Sinclair ZX spectrum. Good times
End of stax77's quote

 

Same here. 38 years old. Reading this thread I would say 38 years young :beer: