Demanding stand-alone patches

After being able to download and install Elemental without any bigger problems, Impulse refuses to properly download any updates to the game.

Soon after starting the update process, it slows to a crawl, runs into "Retrying..." several times, then eventually terminating with an "unknown error"; usually right before it would have finished. Trying to resume the update process doesn't achieve anything except getting it stuck at the percentage it managed to reach before hitting the "unknown error".

I assume this is related to my problem of Impulse refusing to update the client itself or any of my other installed games, which I discussed at length with Stardock's tech support over the last two months without finding a viable solution (tech support actually gave up on it).

Thus, I demand some sort of stand-alone patch to update my installation of Elemental without having to sit through the 14 odd hours it would take to re-install the game everytime a new incremental update is released.

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I get a decompression fault error and it can't find the central folder. I emailed star-dock support and I hope they can help.

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The issue is with your isp/networking or your PC, so the imperative to 'fix' something is on you not them. You've no basis with which to demand anything.

Reply #3 Top

It's possible that the issue is with corrupted data.

In Impulse, click on the menu button in the upper left, then Preferences, then the "Reset Data" button.

Also, a cancel and restart may work better than a resume.

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:(  Sadly Absynthminded is right about isp, and I don't think SD will change policy on patches. Standalone patches could be uploaded and then be at disposal of everyone with a pirate version.

Have you tried contacting your provider?

 

Reply #5 Top

Quoting AbsynthMinded, reply 2
The issue is with your isp/networking or your PC, so the imperative to 'fix' something is on you not them. You've no basis with which to demand anything.
End of AbsynthMinded's quote

Pardon me, but as a paying customer, I think I do have the basis to demand a fix for my problem.

Zubaz, thanks for your advice, but all of this has already been suggested by Stardock's tech support.

Reply #6 Top

You can download an up-to-date version from http://anywhere.impulsedriven.com It is a bit annoying now because the patches are coming quick, but on a fast enough internet connection it doesn't take long and the frequency of the updates will die down. The archives from Anywhere can be installed without an internet connection at all, so you shouldn't have any problems with it.

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Quoting AngryClaude, reply 5

Quoting AbsynthMinded, reply 2The issue is with your isp/networking or your PC, so the imperative to 'fix' something is on you not them. You've no basis with which to demand anything.
Pardon me, but as a paying customer, I think I do have the basis to demand a fix for my problem.

Zubaz, thanks for your advice, but all of this has already been suggested by Stardock's tech support.
End of AngryClaude's quote

 

You are correct that you 'can' demand anything you like, as a paying customer. However SD has no control over your special issues. Get a different PC with a properly installed and updated version of the game, remove it, hook it up to your network and install it off impulse, and then update. Likewise take your PC somewhere someone you know had an updated game, and try doing it off their connection. If someone else can do it at your house, it's something with your PC. If you can do it at someones house, it's your home networking or isp.

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AbsynthMinded, I've been through all of this while discussing the issue with Stardock's tech support. If any of it had proven to be a viable solution, I wouldn't still be complaining about it, would I?

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We shifted to Impulse-only because it saves us the time, testing, and cost of creating standalone updates, allowing us to deploy updates much more rapidly. I'm not sure that we even have the infrastructure in place any longer to make standalone patches (it's been a couple of years at least).

Reply #10 Top

So this essentially means I won't be able to get any further updates to the game without resorting to either impractical or outright unreasonable means, like re-downloading the entire game everytime an update is released or visiting my neighbours to use their internet connection instead.

Reply #11 Top

Quoting AngryClaude, reply 10
So this essentially means I won't be able to get any further updates to the game without resorting to either impractical or outright unreasonable means, like re-downloading the entire game everytime an update is released or visiting my neighbours to use their internet connection instead.
End of AngryClaude's quote

Unfortunately, at this point, it seems you have no choice but to enter the 21st century.

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Quoting AngryClaude, reply 10
So this essentially means I won't be able to get any further updates to the game without resorting to either impractical or outright unreasonable means, like re-downloading the entire game everytime an update is released or visiting my neighbours to use their internet connection instead.
End of AngryClaude's quote

This is probably a stupid question as I asume you have probably tried this already, but have you tried totally uninstalling Impulse then re-installig it?

Reply #13 Top

I think you can also use http://anywhere.impulsedriven.com

 

Reply #14 Top

marlowwe, I'd really like to "enter the 21st century", but unfortunately, I live in a small village without access to a high-speed internet connection.

Soulfire777, yes, I've tried that numerous times already, but thanks for your suggestion.

Frogboy, Impulse Anywhere will only allow me to re-download the entire game, not individual updates, and thus, it's not a practical solution. As I've stated previously, downloading the game takes me around 14 hours, and I'm not willing to suffer through this for an update weighing less than 10 megabytes.

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I assume this is related to my problem of Impulse refusing to update the client itself or any of my other installed games
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gee, sounds like your impulse install is corrupted...

1. Uninstall IMPULSE (not the games)

2. Delete leftover files

3. Install latest version of impulse...

PS. they can, and do, do refunds on occasion. And they are more likely to refund you then make stand alone updates.

Anyways, try actually contacting tech support.

Reply #16 Top

taltamir, I assure you, everything's fine with my installation of Impulse. Besides, Soulfire777 already suggested this. About contacting tech support, that's what I've been doing during the past two months. They've given up on my problem after we exhausted all options.

Reply #17 Top

They will be offering dvds in September (planned date at least) with the latest patches, I don't know many details on it.

Reply #18 Top

Quoting AngryClaude, reply 14
marlowwe, I'd really like to "enter the 21st century", but unfortunately, I live in a small village without access to a high-speed internet connection.

Soulfire777, yes, I've tried that numerous times already, but thanks for your suggestion.

Frogboy, Impulse Anywhere will only allow me to re-download the entire game, not individual updates, and thus, it's not a practical solution. As I've stated previously, downloading the game takes me around 14 hours, and I'm not willing to suffer through this for an update weighing less than 10 megabytes.
End of AngryClaude's quote
14 hours? where do you live? 1,000 miles from a city? wow seriously, My connection downloaded the whole game in 20 minutes....maybe you should move.

 

Reply #19 Top

Alot of places have bad connections. I live in a place with decent speed but I am capped at 5 gig a month which I pay 90 dollars for. I am trying to move where I can get true highspeed but that is alot of hassle. Can't believe the CRTC in Canada allows the telecommunication companies to blatenly rob people.

Canada is ranked as one of the top overcharged country for things like internet and cell phones. Cheaper to get high speed and a good cell plan in alot of the third world countries. The say it is for maitanence but once something is built (which cost alot) taking care of it is very cheap. Somehow they keep making record profits to boot.

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Quoting DariasDruss, reply 19
Alot of places have bad connections. I live in a place with decent speed but I am capped at 5 gig a month which I pay 90 dollars for. I am trying to move where I can get true highspeed but that is alot of hassle. Can't believe the CRTC in Canada allows the telecommunication companies to blatenly rob people.

Canada is ranked as one of the top overcharged country for things like internet and cell phones. Cheaper to get high speed and a good cell plan in alot of the third world countries. The say it is for maitanence but once something is built (which cost alot) taking care of it is very cheap. Somehow they keep making record profits to boot.
End of DariasDruss's quote
wow...yeah thats gay as all hell. I have a 12 Mbps connection for only 40 bucks a month with no limit here in the usa....those guys are robbing you blind.

Reply #21 Top

Tell me about it... We're paying 35€/month for a so-called "DSL lite" connection, which has an average bandwidth of ~380 kbps. However, Stardock's tech support has assured me this would be sufficient for the proper use of Impulse.

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Since it doesn't seem like I'll get any helpful advice on here that I haven't already heard from Stardock's tech support people, could somebody official tell me if I'm eligible for a refund?

Reply #23 Top

Please contact [email protected] about that. We cannot authorize refunds over public forums.

Reply #25 Top

Try deleting the data in your options menu I had this problem and that was the fix, unfortunately I had to re-download after this but then it worked with no complaint. Again this isnt really stardocks problem, and personally I think they have the best piracy protection in this manner , much preferable to the alternatives.