It feels like more. At this point it's just going in circles.
The launch went poorly. We know. Maybe it's time to talk about something else?
It's hard to do that when all the mechanics might change at this point, are broken currently, not hooked up, and the game we're playing right now could be very different in 3 months.
So we're left with suggestions, arguments, debate, praise, scorn, player stories and reflection time.
Hopefully a lil soul searching is happening as well.
Anyways, it's gonna be about the release until some patches come our way, and we see the game start making some visible leaps forward. Like the Day Zero patch that made tactical battles drastically less irritating to fight.